[Hardware.fr] AMD FreeSync ': Proposal adopted by VESA

humbug · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:09

French Translation

http://www.overclock.net/t/1479232/hardware-fr-amd-freesync-proposal-adopted-by-vesa

There is a little more than two months, we will unveil a the initiative 'FreeSync' AMD, standardized response to G-Sync Nvidia was on track to become an option for the current DisplayPort 1.2a standard.

As a reminder, while the silence seems to be the rule on the side of VESA, a knowledgeable reader we had indicated that a request for SCR (Specification Change Request) guy had been made to incorporate the optional carrier frequency variable DisplayPort 1.2a standard refreshments. This proposal, represented by a document dated November 25, entitled DP1.2a Extend MSA Tmg Para AMD SCR had obviously been submitted by AMD. End of January, she was GMR (General Member Review) stage and therefore on track to be finalized and ratified.

According to our source , we thank again the various discussions on this proposal took place in the month of February between relevant members of VESA and , good news , it has been adopted as planned. Since April 1 , and it is not a fish, the list of requests SCR adopted a new mentions : Extend DP1.2a MSA Tmg settings Ignore Option AMD .

VESA and / or AMD should no longer delay to officially announce the arrival of the refresh frequency variable for the standard DisplayPort 1.2a .

Remains , of course, many questions about its support in practice since it will be optional. AMD has stated on several occasions that screens already on the market could potentially support this view , but we still do not know if this will actually be the case. When new screens will they be available ? Nvidia and Intel will they do so quickly and actively support this standard display mode? Given the interest of the thing, we can only hope that these questions are answered quickly !

V-Blank Variable Refresh Rate is now adopted as a standard on existing DisplayPort 1.2a by VESA.

This is a crutial milestone in AMD offering an Open Standard equivalent to Nvidias proprietary G-Sync.

With V-Blank Variable Refresh Rate now possible to be transmitted from the GPU directly to the Screen through the existing Display Port it now only remains for Screen Vendors to adopt the technology.

Gregster · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:14

So Freesync still requires you to purchase a new screen?

Kaapstad · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:21

The way NVidia and AMD are going about things with different standards all they will end up doing is fragmenting the graphics card market.

End result, we all lose.

triss · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:22

AMD has stated on several occasions that screens already on the market could potentially support this view, but we still do not know if this will actually be the case

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It might or it might not seems to be unknown atm

Gregster · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:24

triss said:
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It might or it might not seems to be unknown atm

I have skimmed read the article on OCN and from what I have read, you will need a new monitor (currently a laptop monitor can support it) and a new GPU. I can't say if it is right or wrong but not what I consider free lol.

Tonester0011 · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:28

Kaapstad said:
The way NVidia and AMD are going about things with different standards all they will end up doing is fragmenting the graphics card market.

End result, we all lose.

^

Kaapstad · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:30

Gregster said:
I have skimmed read the article on OCN and from what I have read, you will need a new monitor (currently a laptop monitor can support it) and a new GPU. I can't say if it is right or wrong but not what I consider free lol.

When people start using the word "could" it often means probably won't or if it does run it won't be without problems.

My HD 5970s "could" run a 4K monitor if you know what I mean.

triss · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:31

Kaapstad said:
The way NVidia and AMD are going about things with different standards all they will end up doing is fragmenting the graphics card market.

End result, we all lose.

+1 it seems to be going from bad to worse lately

shankly1985 · 6 Apr 2014 at 00:31

Gsync or Free Sync not interest me at all.

Sync Free gamer since day one and nothing will change that

But it is good AMD are giving AMD users an option.

tommybhoy · 6 Apr 2014 at 01:01

Kaapstad said:
The way NVidia and AMD are going about things with different standards all they will end up doing is fragmenting the graphics card market.

End result, we all lose.

We are already fragmented, have been since Nvidia adopted PhysX, then 3D vision, when Mantle arrived the circle was complete.

shankly1985 said:
But it is good AMD are giving AMD users an option.

^
+1

Both Nvidia/AMD users should be happy that they both have the option to use the feature or not.

jh30uk · 6 Apr 2014 at 01:03

AMD should have taken the free offer on help with PhysX then when it was 1st offered.

Once they said no, Nvidia stopped that peep hacking it to work on AMD out of spite I would say but I see why.

Orangey · 6 Apr 2014 at 01:19

At least we know it's not a fish.

humbug · 6 Apr 2014 at 01:30

Kaapstad said:
The way NVidia and AMD are going about things with different standards all they will end up doing is fragmenting the graphics card market.

End result, we all lose.

G-Sync is proprietary locked to Nvidia, so the market is already fragmented, thanks to Nvidia, what AMD are trying to do is make it an Open Standard so Intel and Nvidia can adopt it if they so wish.

tommybhoy · 6 Apr 2014 at 01:42

jh30uk said:
AMD should have taken the free offer on help with PhysX then when it was 1st offered.

That's far from what actually happened.

To save argument on blame, there were 'claims' both ways via Nvidia/AMD pr, then Tom Peterson confirmed they wouldn't support AMD in 2010.

jh30uk said:
Once they said no, Nvidia stopped that peep hacking it to work on AMD out of spite I would say but I see why.

In 2007, Nvidia threatened legal action against regeneration(iirc)@ngohq that(up unto that point) 'claimed' Nvidia were helping him develop hybrid PhysX, then the PhysX hack called GenL was born, it worked in one form or another until PhsX3 titles arrived last year or the end of 2012.

EL_JOCK · 6 Apr 2014 at 01:43

jh30uk said:
AMD should have taken the free offer on help with PhysX then when it was 1st offered.

Once they said no, Nvidia stopped that peep hacking it to work on AMD out of spite I would say but I see why.

We have been down this road before and all the links given as any sort of proof that Nvidia offered PhysX to ATI,(AMD now), shown that not to be the case...

Some people did try to hack it onto AMD drivers but AMD wanted nothing to do with it, with good reason, then Nvidia shut the hackers down with with a letter claiming legal action if they carry on trying.

So lets put this camp fire story to rest, its just not true...

With regard to Freesync, AMD cards from the 6 series i believe, have been able to address this feature, so anyone with tech from some years ago are good to go on the AMD side, you may need a new monitor, so yes you could face a cost! However unlike Gsync, it will not be new monitor + £100 for a Gsync version.

Also Nvidia would be free to add the feature to its cards, so that they can address the feature, so no need for the Gsync mod, it would be open to all. So going forward it would not be fragmented...

If Nvidia don't use this option, you have to ask why?

jh30uk · 6 Apr 2014 at 01:46

I posted the link a few weeks ago showing ATI were offered it and said no, search my posts if you like.

I do not care either way about the hacked side of it be it running on solely AMD cards or AND+Nvidia in same PC.

Anyhow I do not do AMD threads so not sure how I ended up in here.

tommybhoy · 6 Apr 2014 at 01:55

jh30uk said:
I posted the link a few weeks ago showing ATI were offered it and said no, search my posts if you like.

That was Nvidia's spin, AMD had their spin too.

There are Nvidia employees stating that a, they haven't discussed it, b, they will not support it and c, they will try and sue your **** if you even try to hack it.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25625816&postcount=398

http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2010/05/28/update-on-release-256-physx-support-1/

humbug · 6 Apr 2014 at 02:06

jh30uk said:
I posted the link a few weeks ago showing ATI were offered it and said no, search my posts if you like.

I do not care either way about the hacked side of it be it running on solely AMD cards or AND+Nvidia in same PC.

Anyhow I do not do AMD threads so not sure how I ended up in here.

I remember that link, it was debunked in the same thread.

EL_JOCK · 6 Apr 2014 at 02:16

Nice one for finding that, thought i was going crazy for a sec, could it be true the fabled smoking gun that Nvidia had offered Ati Physx's had been found.

Then i remembered i posted in that thread and all normality returned, it was just people making stuff up again.....

triss · 6 Apr 2014 at 03:32

EL_JOCK said:
We have been down this road before and all the links given as any sort of proof that Nvidia offered PhysX to ATI,(AMD now), shown that not to be the case...

Some people did try to hack it onto AMD drivers but AMD wanted nothing to do with it, with good reason, then Nvidia shut the hackers down with with a letter claiming legal action if they carry on trying.

So lets put this camp fire story to rest, its just not true...

With regard to Freesync, AMD cards from the 6 series i believe, have been able to address this feature, so anyone with tech from some years ago are good to go on the AMD side, you may need a new monitor, so yes you could face a cost! However unlike Gsync, it will not be new monitor + £100 for a Gsync version.

Also Nvidia would be free to add the feature to its cards, so that they can address the feature, so no need for the Gsync mod, it would be open to all. So going forward it would not be fragmented...

If Nvidia don't use this option, you have to ask why?

Until freesync monitors are released we dont know if monitor manufacturers will charge for this or not,, Just because its a open standard doesnt mean they have to include it in every model free