Hastings Direct Policy Cancellation

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Hi,

Was hoping you could give any advise on this situation (Either in finding new insurance, or of any bodies to contact).

I received a phone call yesterday from Hastings Direct, which I unfortunately missed. Upon ringing back I was told that my insurance was going to be cancelled within seven days due to a miss-issued policy. Apparently the underwriters "Highway" did not insure people nineteen years of age (Or younger) or people in high-risk areas (E.g., cities). I fall into the category of being a nineteen year old.

I was told this was through no fault of my own but simply a technical problem with their system and this has affected over three thousand other people over the country (Who are all being given the same call and a seven day notification before insurance expires). Apparently I will be paid my insurance back (Actual amount not yet confirmed) on a true pro rata basis but would not receive the whole policy back as they would still have covered me had I claimed in the time since the policy was first taken out. I asked the gentleman on the phone to give me details of where in the contract it gives Hastings permission and he said all details relating to their cancellation can be found on page 17, section 3 of their handbook, where the relevant paragraph states:

We may also cancel this policy by sending you 7 days' notice, in writing, to your last known address. A refund of premium for this remaining period of your policy will be allowed as long as no claim has arisen in the current period. In the first year, this will not exceed 80% of the insurance premium.
A further annoyance with this is that as a new driver every years no-claims make a difference. Unfortunately being cut four months into a policy means I am still sat here with no no-claims therefore no discount when looking for replacement insurance. I asked for a letter confirming I had 4 months no-claims to which the gentleman agreed but mentioned that in reality it was unlikely any insurer would care about four months and that I would simply have to start all over again.

The gentleman on the phone offered to find a new price and ring me back within ten minutes but explained that the price was never going to be as cheap as the one they had issued before. I never received a follow-up phone call; I assume because Hastings do not offer a policy that I am eligible for (I ran a search with them soon after the initial phone call).

One fear I have in looking for new cover is that many insures ask a question along the lines of "Have you ever had an insurance policy declined or cancelled?" which I believe I must now answer "Yes" (Due to the cancellation of this policy) and as such I do not know if this will affect a new premium (If I was to be offered one at all).

I have completed several quotes (For the exact same level of cover) with other companies and the best that I can find is approximately £1550 - So that is almost £250 more than they policy which is to be cancelled; Originally I paid £1300. This is for a nineteen year old with no no-claims on a '95 (M Reg) Mazda 323F GLX 1.5l. Although I have not had it confirmed I would expect a refund of approximately £800 on my insurance, which would leave me over £700 short of starting a new policy - Money that I will certainly struggle to find.

I have been told that I shall receive a letter confirming these details (Either today or tomorrow).

Do you believe they (Hastings Direct/Highway) are within their rights? Is there nothing I can do about this? Can you recommend any insurers that may offer a better premium?

Many Thanks,

Dan.
 
Thanks for the reply :)

From what I can gather the person on the linked website got £30 as the company gave him only two days notice where as the contract stated seven were required. In my case I have been given the full seven so I don't think I really have grounds on which to enquire about that, unfortunately. In actual fact I was told at about 6pm last night that my policy will expire on Midnight of the 23rd. I explained that left me only 6 days and 6 hours but they said that made no difference - This left me wishing I'd left it til this morning to ring them back as I'd effectively have an extra days covered insurance!

Many others in a similar situation have posted a Money Supermarket thread that I have just found. Here.

I look forward to hearing more thoughts.

Many Thanks,

Dan.
 
Hi there mate.

Highway are within their right to cancel your policy if it falls outside of their insurance criteria. Highway as an insurer do not deal directly with the public and as such rely on brokers (in this case, Hastings) to dish out policies according to pre-defined standards they set.

Brokers work on a comission basis. They recieve X amount for each policy they sell and add their fee's for staffing and other overheads (and profit) on top of the price that Highway set.

It is very common in the industry for brokers to push out policies in huge numbers and sometimes bend the rules in order to maximise their figures. Whilst in your case it may be a genuine mistake, I deal day to day with people who are victims of misquoted policies.

As far as Highway are concerned, there's not much you can do. Their rules are set and they have abided by them. They cannot change the prices of their insurance packages, unless you go down the bespoke (delegated) route. Even then you'd need to speak to a specialist broker (Adrian Flux et al).

With Hastings though, i'd give them a call and explain the situation. If they say "there's not much we can do" then ask to speak to a supervisor. They will try to throw you off but just keep pushing at it. Whoever you speak to take their full name and department and quote this whenever possible. When you get through to them that you have a gripe they may offer (or, more to the point, you should ask) for them to create a new policy for you, with a different insurer if needs be, but to remove their fee's from the cost of the policy. If someone agree's to do something to help you, make sure to ask for a reference number.

Of course, it may have been a genuine error, in which case you might not have a leg to stand on. But try the above, because its better than doing nothing at all.

Good luck dude, keep us updated.

Edit: You would not need to declare this as having insurance declined or cancelled. This refers to something you are the cause of. For example, they bust you for undisclosed convictions or if you recieve a driving ban, etc.
 
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Hi there,

Thank you very much for your reply - With little other input and Hastings' get out clause in the contract I thought I had no chance and was about to take it lying down but have since acted on your suggestions and seem to be getting a bit further (Makes me feel better if nothing else!).

Upon receiving my cancellation letter from Hastings today, I rang up and tried to discuss the situation with customer services. Eventually it reached the limit of where they could help and so I asked to speak to a supervisor and was then told that they would ring back within ten minutes. This happened twice and neither time did I hear back. I rang again and this time complained that I was never being contacted and was informed that this time a manager would get back in touch.

Soon after I received a call and discuss the issue to quite some depth, whilst remaining calm. The person was unable to help with any financial side (E.g., discounts) but helped in clarifying some points and generally getting some motion to the complaint.

First off their system states I have two extra days of insurance than I had been previously informed (The manager double checked this after I explained this) and have also managed to get my 4 months no-claims in writing as well as a letter explaining that the insurance was cancelled through no fault of my own to pass on to other insurers in the case that they request it (Though he did say the same as you that I do not have to declare this at all).

I clarified how much refund I should expect, how I shall receive it and how long it will take until I do receive it as well as ensuring that I was placed as a priority for a refund and stated that I should receive the refund by the 22nd of this month at the latest.

Finally he has put me onto their complaints department (Who will be the ones able to give any financial offering) and said that they assign a member of staff to me that will be the person I shall deal with throughout the complaint. This person should be in touch with me within 48 hours and (at the very worst) before my policy expires. Beyond this he said that he agrees that I should exercise my right to get an impartial view from the insurance ombudsman.

Before ending the call I clarified the gentleman’s name, department and extension number agreeing that if all discussed matters did not come to light I could contact him to resolve them. I was very impressed with the help of this member of staff and certainly believe in my fifteen minutes with him I was able to resolve much more (and get far more detail!) than any correspondence before.

All in all - A brighter outlook. Will start looking at replacement insurance Monday and take a policy out as soon as the partial refund from Hastings arrives in my possession. Meanwhile tomorrow I shall write letters to Watchdog and the financial ombudsman, which I shall send if I do not reach a satisfactory end with Hastings.

Again, thank you very much for your help and support - I shall ensure I give any updates!

Many Thanks,

Dan.
 
Hi mate.

Brilliant. It just goes to show what a little perserverance can get you. I'm sorry that so far they've been unable to offer any kind of discount, but like I said it may have been a genuine system error, in which you wouldn't really be qualified for one (since it's not their neglegence that caused the issue).

Keep at em mate. Good luck with the complaints department. Make sure you tell em everything you just told us! And push for that discount. With 0 NCB you'll need any discount they can offer, as you know :P

Let us know how it pans out :)
 
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