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Haswell vs Skylake

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Iv giving up on the idea of a AMD build, even with my brother in law offering me his OC FX8350 for £75.

Iv found an 2nd hand I5 4690 going fairly cheapish, same sort of price as an I3 6100. I wanted a I5 6500, but that seem to be just out of reach at the moment. what are the pros and cons to Skylake over Haskell. Both of these choices will have a sensible upgrade path as far as i can tell.
 
The rig is mostly for gaming. When i say cheapish its around £120 includeing postage. I think i would rather buy a brand new CPU, unless i know where its coming from. Plus i wasn't aware the Kabylake CPU will be backwards compatible with the current skylake CPU's, thats very good and swings my decision towards an I3. Cheers.

So i guess i should pair a I3 6100/6300 with H170 mother board, for now. Or with Z170 mother board and plan to by a K series CPU later in the year to Overclock. Or should i buy K series CPU and Z series board together later down the line?
 
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Don't go with the i3. You would be better off with the FX8 core and spending the money saved on the graphics card.

If you shop around you can find some really good deal on the older i7's and Xeon E3 1200's.

You are the first person who has said use an AMD FX series as a good idea, apart from my friends who use them already.
 
There's plenty of secondhand i5's you can get for 75 quid.

I current don’t have access to the members market at the moment on here, so i can’t comment for this forum. But the cheapest I5 i have seen recently has been around the £125.00 mark. I haven’t seen any going for £75.
 
It's a good idea to use an FX in many scenarios (especially when comparing with dual-core offerings from Intel or for a variety of different workloads/price points). If you're looking at gaming specifically across a range of different titles and are able to reach i5 levels or above then I'd not advise it though.

As for upgradability - the standard set of actions is to overpay for future upgrade options that never get used, as next time round you'll not want to invest in a "dead end" thing so swap out to something new, overpaying for "upgradability" which you'll never use as next time...

(This isn't always true, some people actually do take advantage of the ability to change their CPU, especially in a place like this. Still worth considering how likely you are to actually change though. Only you know yourself!)

For me the 4690 or other second hand ~Haswellish gen i5/i7 wins hands down over the i3 or the 8350.

To honest at the moment I am not sure, but i would like to think i would upgrade a CPU a year down the line, if i went for a I3. At least if i do that i could sell the I3 to off the cost of a I5 or I7 later down the line.
The only reason i was considering a ADM CPU was i had used them in the past and my friends use the. Saying that i haven’t built a pc in about 10 years now so have been out of the loop a lot, thanks to moving over to Mac and console gaming.
After joining this forum and doing some of my own research i came to the conclusion that i would go Intel, there CPU’s just seem to been that much more, guess this is due to them having a bit of a monopoly on CPU for the last few years.
Hence why i started to look at 2nd I5’s Haswell CPU's but they still seem to demand a seemly high value for a 2nd hand CPU. Iv also been looking at 2nd hand GPU’s. I am not trying to be tight, i just like value for my money.
My brother in law has giving me 1st refusal his, but he wants to test his 2nd hand purchase of a FX 9590 before hand. So i have a little time to make up mind. I would like to wait for Zen, but can’t see them being in ball pack financially at the moment.
 
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