Hate crime and double standards

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So some Indian student was stabbed recently and now people are saying it could be a hate crime.

Why is it never a hate crime when the victim is white? oh wait no such thing as a white victim is there? some youth was being chased down by a group of black men and stabbed, but apparently it's not a hate crime because he had a diverse group of friends.

Brilliant logic I suppose Stephen Lawrence wasn't racially attacked because he had a white friend?
 
Naaah all the cool cats do hug mugging nowadays - be impossible to hug someone with hate I suppose...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Be quiet, it's all about context.

Just another inflammatory troll posing as an innocent poster :rolleyes:
 
So much for equality we clearly aren't treated all the same. Why do the police race probe every time someone of colour is killed?

So blacks just kill whites for no reason

Whites kill people it has to be racially motivated!
 
There are no double standards.

Just you completely failing to understand, well, anything.

I've been on these forums long enough to spot trolls from a mile off, and you aren't even subtle. You don't care about double standards, you just need an excuse to be racist. Thread RTM'd
 
I actually can't see the racism in OP's original post. I just see him/her highlighting something from the media/press releases/police investigations.
 
"when it's whites that do it it's a hate crime, when it's blacks it isn't."

Not quite what he said, but it's pretty damn obvious to see that's the gist of it.

And he's also admitted he's a racist.

Come on, it is pretty obvious.
 
Shayper said:
"when it's whites that do it it's a hate crime, when it's blacks it isn't."

Not quite what he said, but it's pretty damn obvious to see that's the gist of it.

And he's also admitted he's a racist.

Come on, it is pretty obvious.
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He may well have admitted so, but that doesn't necessarily make his initial post racist and I stand by and say he may well have a point. The fact that he has thereabouts admitted to having some racist views is irrelevant if that point is valid.

I can't think of one case since the Stephen Lawrence one in which it was purported to be a racially motivated attack on a white person. None which were brought to the forefront of public debate through the media anyway. Why is this? Are there really no racially motivated attacks on white people?

It may well be the case that there are no such cases. And if that's how it is, then perhaps a little more context is needed for the public at large to highlight that this really is a one way traffic lane of hate that a select few choose to embark upon. But by only showing the public this one lane of traffic, it naturally makes many people feel insecure such as OP here as to why it is 'always' white people who attack people through racial motivation. It effectively just points the finger at the whole without really explaining and putting it into context. Blame and isolation without explanation gets peoples backs up and I think that naturally breeds such ignorance.

I'm not condoning racism by any means, but I do think that the racist ideology of many is tailored into peoples thought processes by a failure of the media to properly put facts of stories into context.
 
I agree with a fair few of your points there, however I will still stand by the fact that the op was, quite obviously, more meant to be inflammatory then raise any debate.
 
Of course, but hopefully I've pointed out that he has nevertheless got a point. If he had just come here and stated that point more plainly without it's undertones he may well have been more welcome.

But on that note...


TROLL! BAN!

:p
 
J-FRO said:
Of course, but hopefully I've pointed out that he has nevertheless got a point. If he had just come here and stated that point more plainly without it's undertones he may well have been more welcome.

But on that note...


TROLL! BAN!

:p
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Definitely :) and I'm glad you agree!

EGuitarStar said:
Is it a crime to hate crime?
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Crimeception?
 
That's a potentially interesting insight expressed with astonishing incompetance.

There is an imbalance regarding "racially motivated" crimes, in that white people attacking black are more likely to be called racist than the other way around. This is a consequence of white people enslaving black people for quite a while, leaving a sense of post colonial guilt. Said guilt makes as much sense as the reparations idea does, but nevertheless it exists.

There isn't really a solution to this. The sense of guilt is irrational, so cannot be reasoned away.

edit: fixing some of the spelling mistakes
 
I'm sorry, I really can't post anything serious at this moment in time.

Due to the fact ScarySquirrel has started what is easily Thread of The Entire Timeline!
 
J-FRO said:
I can't think of one case since the Stephen Lawrence one in which it was purported to be a racially motivated attack on a white person. None which were brought to the forefront of public debate through the media anyway. Why is this? Are there really no racially motivated attacks on white people?
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Yes there has been and VERY high profile -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6123014.stm

15 years old and kidnapped, tortured and killed by grown men for being white. Totally random attack.

The six week trial had heard that her son had shouted: "I'm only 15, what have I done?" as he was dragged from the street and into a car.

The gang took him on a 200-mile journey to Dundee and back while they made phone calls looking for a house to take him to.

Having no success, they returned to Glasgow and took him to the quiet Clyde Walkway, near Celtic FC's training ground.

There, they held his arms and stabbed him 13 times before dousing him with petrol and setting him alight while he may still have been alive.
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