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They all use DDR3... why did you keep buying RAM?
Three motherboards purchased for 1 CPU...?
Hatred for Intel is growing... Daily!
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They all use DDR3... why did you keep buying RAM?
Three motherboards purchased for 1 CPU...?
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Correction:
"Other than that, its a piece of **** board"
You're complaining that a motherboard has no expansion slots... and yet you bought it
The spec was available before purchase Why would you keep a faulty CPU?
You can't raid optical drives... you know
Cant you? Hmm..
LOL, no I do a lot of burning... I run a youth club, and I also do Ghost Hunting etc, and we do a lot of video work... 3 drives ( Hey, I used to have 4 ) get lots of burning done quickly.
LOL Not quite... Read the next reply...
Correction:
"Other than that, its a piece of **** board"
You're complaining that a motherboard has no expansion slots... and yet you bought it
Why would you keep a faulty CPU?
Right, I suggest that everyone reads from the start.
First off, originally, that I7 and that cruddy Mobo I was given, along with various sticks of RAM.
I NEVER PAID FOR IT.
The I3 and the Asus Bouard, I bought from the MM here, along with 4GB of RAM, and the idea being that I would swap the CPUs over.
At this time, there was NOTHING aparently wrong with the CPU because in that cruddy board, it showed the RAM but just didnt let you use more than 4GB even though it sai you had more. ( I have said all of this )
When I put the I7 into the Asus Board it worked fine for a few days and then it hung, I could not resolve this and it was suggested to me that I needed to up the Volts and various tweaking never resolved it, and I was also told that that particular board is a great board but has issues with the I7, ( Whichj turns out to be the RAM going over 4GB ) so I left the I3 in it and its been perfect.
I then decided to buy myself a Gigabyte board because I love Gigabyte, but this time the BIOS in the Gigabyte board shows me all teh RAM sticks but only lets me use 4GB? - after some piddling about I fail miserably to get more than 4GB to be used with the I7 ( the I3 was fine ) and so I asked a mate to help, and with his CPU, we saw the gigabyte read whatever RAM we used in it, and then when we tried my I7, his Motherboard did the same as mine did... Failed to use more than 4GB.
So, it was only on this weekend just gone that we actually realised that it was my CPU and nothign else.
the other things like the RAM, are all trying different types of RAM, plus the cruddy board now has 8GB of new good RAM, so I will get a CPU for that, the Asus now has 16GB as does the Gigabye and so, once I get this CPU sorted out ( or buy another to replace it so this one can go into the cruddy board ) I will have 3 entirely new ( well, ok not new ) but better systems so I can then upgrade my kids with new PCs too!
Nothing will actually go to waste.. Nothing ever does in this house.
Is this all any clearer?
Nothign was immediately obvious as to what was the cause of anything. Everything worked as it should have as I bought it and much of the time I was thinking it could be me.
But be honest with yourself... The last thing you would think the problem would be, was the CPU... You have to accept that.
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Hehe... I had to poke at it... haven't seen that many drives in a system for a while now!
My latest two builds (new gaming machine and home server) don't even have a single optical drive! I do all O/S installations by USB now
The only non-laptop PC in my home now with an optical drive is my HTPC which has a blu-ray burner... which hasn't been used since about the 2nd week after i bought it, lol
Makes much more sense now... I'll admit, I may have been a touch lazy in my attemp to read the whole thread
And yeah, in my experience... it's hardly ever the CPU
So I can see why it was such a PITA 
Good news that the extra bits and pieces aren't going to go to waste
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Can you give details of the Asus and Gigabyte boards you've got? Might be a simple old bios having an issue
Hehe... I had to poke at it... haven't seen that many drives in a system for a while now!
My latest two builds (new gaming machine and home server) don't even have a single optical drive! I do all O/S installations by USB now
LOL
No, I will admit... I have all my games and Software already on the server, in ISO format, and this is something that I have done for years... It keeps my originals in mint condition. I keep the serials on a text file alongside the ISO, so yeah, its pretty much a waste of time haviug even a DVD ROM in many ways these days... I only use it for writing but to be honest I have not used one to install anything for quite some time now, probably like you... Years?
Its NOT the BIOS.
In both cases, I have even gone back a few BIOSes and in the case of the Gigabyte, I have been using their emailing system for solutions and they have even given me 2 BIOS files that are NOT even out there, the gigabyte is on BIOS F00d and that I find a little amuzing.
It does appear that your i7 CPU is fubar'ed. If its second hand I doubt Intel will honour warranty on it and it may be been overclocked and knackered before you got it. It was lucky it ran normally for awhile.
So either stick with the i3 or get a second hand desktop i5 (as desktop i5's do not have hyperthreading, while mobile i5's has hyperthreading).
So either stick with the i3 or get a second hand desktop i5 (as desktop i5's do not have hyperthreading, while mobile i5's has hyperthreading).
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Actually no... not years - you've just reminded me.
One of my cats kept getting lost - so we bought him a tracker. The software for that came on a DVD
But that was the first time in years for personal stuff... hehe
I'm just setting up my new server - copying files from old HDDs to new raid-5 array (6x 3TB drives in raid-5). I'm in Sweden at the minute too... which makes it more interesting as I only had enough sata ports for the 6x new drives + o/s drive + 1 more... so only one of the old drives can be plugged in at a time, keep poking the other half to swap cables over in the evening... I trained her at the weekend before leaving - HAHA
£60 on a new controller card or train the other half... tough one, thankfully it didn't take long to train the other half, so the gamble paid off
I've lost track of the amount of times I've shuffled data around various raid and hdd configurations. I've had my own fileserver since my second year of uni... so ~4-5 years now, with software on hdds for quite a while before that too.
I had been using optical media to install O/S til a few months in to last year, that's when I finally did away with optical media (pretty much).
Plus if it was the bios... swapping to another I7 wouldn't solve the issue
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It sounds to me like you haven't got a clue what you're doing, you're the problem not INTEL. Why have you bought so much RAM?
Anyone thinking AMD produce better chips than INTEL right now is living in a Kafka-esque nightmare.
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Actually, it still runs great in that original Mobo. Its just that if I add any mroe RAM than 4GB it gets ignored.
The I3 I have clocked to 3.8 and its great there in that Asus.
Im using the I7 but sticking with 4GB in the gigabyte and here its again, flawless.
Im happy for now. I have no real need for more than that... Even buying so much RAM has given my I3 loads of RAM to play with, and that naff Mobo has loads when I do decide to buy another CPU... These bits are all 1156 however, so I dont know?
My Server has been used fairly solidly for years as an all encompassing I do everythign server and it was great, but then I got introduced to NAS boxes and it was only until recently when I lost a load of data that I decided to not go the NAS / RAID route again.
Annoyingly, I had to buy another ICYBOX just for the PSU because no matter what I did, every single other RAID option I had, wanted to initialise my Raid drives before use, and a PSU solved it and saved my data.
Im now running 4x2TB External SATA jobs using the Seagate goFlex things... They are USB 2 howevere I recently bought one USB 3 one and boy, thats quick, but I have no real need to have them all as USB 3 - only the one that gets accessed all teh time, and a mate has the NAS version and thats ok, and I was semi-tempted, but no... Im happy with USB for now.
The only thing the actual Server serves these days is Folding At Home on another 4 cores that a sad waste of resources if ever there was any.
you and me both.
Yes, but as I said... I burn like crazy at times, so I need a few.
Plus if it was the bios... swapping to another I7 wouldn't solve the issue
No thats right, although the Naff board and the Asus both showed the right ammount of ram, it was only when I got the gigabyte that answers started to come... It saw all the RAM, but only actually enabled up to 4GB, even CPUZ still showed all the RAM in all the slots, but I only ever saw 4GB, yes, much like 32Bit limitations.
It was very confusing because even after several posts on here, as well as other forums, and eventually to Gigabyte, NOTHING was ever resolved until we tried my CPU in another Mobo that was working 100% correctly with another I7 of similar spec.
Sicne no one here was able to work it out,m and no one on Ars or XS were either, not the Gigabyte Forums or even Gigabyte themselves, it kind of made me accept that it wasnt me.
No need to talk down to me like a child. Try reading all my posts.
If you knew me, you would know that I am only having a whine, as I clearly posted in the bottom of the first post.
If you try reading some other posts, you will also read that I own several other Similar boards and that the RAM will all get used in one way or another, so its not like I have wasted any money as such.
Besides, I own 13 other PCs ( Although they are all DDR2 - and now teh novelty of being able to buy such huge ammounts of RAM is a new one to me LOL )
Oh, and in AMDs defense, I am an AMD lover... Why not?
I only have 4 AMDs and all my others are Intel and sure, you get the fastest you can afford, and for now, its been Intel. They are Flawless and I love Intels, but I laos love my AMDs too.
Whats wrong with that?
I once did a straight swap, of a Q6600 & Mobo for the Phenom 9550 and DS3 Mobo purely so I can say that I had a 9550 in a DS3 Mobo in both Intel and AMD flavours. and even though the Intel 9550 was almost twice the power of the AMD, the AMD was still my main PC.
Laughs aloud etc
Seriously?
I have plenty more PCs to fall back on.
This is my first delve into the I3/I7 world...
Ok, not true as such, I have knocked up a fair few, but this is the first ime that I have had to really dig in to solve a problem such as this.
I still have my Q9550 and DS4 ( These have been my main PC for the last year and a bit and have never let me down ) and even if it came to the crunch, I could happily go back here ( Especially now that I have not been able to play Space Marine or BF3 at all on this I7 because it jerks too much )
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I too have been the victim of hardware & semi-hardware/software raid (ie onboard controllers).
I'm running a *cough* extended trial *cough* version of Server 2008 and that gives you some good software raid options that are usually much faster than onboard controller raid.
Plus... if the array collapses or the computer/controller dies... I can move to a complete different machine or controller and re-build the array very very easily.
Also... obvious raid-5 gives you redundancy + speed... so if 1x hdd fails... I still have all my data
I'm running a *cough* extended trial *cough* version of Server 2008 and that gives you some good software raid options that are usually much faster than onboard controller raid.
Plus... if the array collapses or the computer/controller dies... I can move to a complete different machine or controller and re-build the array very very easily.
Also... obvious raid-5 gives you redundancy + speed... so if 1x hdd fails... I still have all my data
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Go for a walk - that should clear your head
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You can raid optical drives. It's only a file after all. Unless you're using windows of course.
Diagnosing a faulty cpu screws the best of us. It's genuinely difficult to tell whether it's the cpu or the motherboard, everyone blames the board. Or ram, because ram breaks really easily too.
The OP hasn't been stupid here, he just values his time more highly than we do. I'll waste 4 hours on diagnostics, but if my time was worth more than £25 an hour, i'd just buy more stuff until the combination worked too.
Diagnosing a faulty cpu screws the best of us. It's genuinely difficult to tell whether it's the cpu or the motherboard, everyone blames the board. Or ram, because ram breaks really easily too.
The OP hasn't been stupid here, he just values his time more highly than we do. I'll waste 4 hours on diagnostics, but if my time was worth more than £25 an hour, i'd just buy more stuff until the combination worked too.
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You've still not posted the details of your mobos...
Oh well, since you couldn't be bothered I'll have to ask the following (probably insulting but..)
Are your mobos 1155 or 1156? Both have i7 chips that fit in them and your i7 is an 1156. I was only concerned as people have mentioned z68 boards which are 1155s
Oh well, since you couldn't be bothered I'll have to ask the following (probably insulting but..)
Are your mobos 1155 or 1156? Both have i7 chips that fit in them and your i7 is an 1156. I was only concerned as people have mentioned z68 boards which are 1155s
Sorry but I'm pretty sure if it was the cpu at fault the memory wouldn't show at all....
The second most important part of your PC after the power supply is your motherboard.
Thats right, the PSU and mobo are far more important than everything else.
Only ever get good quality, reliable brand PSUs and mobos, dont blame Intel because you think a £50 (or less) motherboard is as good as a £150-£300 one.
Thats right, the PSU and mobo are far more important than everything else.
Only ever get good quality, reliable brand PSUs and mobos, dont blame Intel because you think a £50 (or less) motherboard is as good as a £150-£300 one.
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You build a system and you complain because it doesn't work? If you know what your doing RMA the broken part.
If you don't then you can't blame Intel!
If you don't then you can't blame Intel!