Have the road planners here done a woopsie?

[Jono8]

This road leading into the roundabout from the north west has been widened, only at the end, to three lanes.

However there are no road markings and as i found out today, there is literally no room on the roundabout for three cars to set off at the same time. Someone has to cut someone up.

As you can see from the picture, it was two lanes with no markings, so as usual, that meant to go 1st exit you have to be in the left, to go 2nd exit you can be in the left or right lane (roundabout is 2 lanes wide) and to go right (3rd exit) you have to be in the right lane. This worked perfectly for everyone every time i have been on the roundabout

Now they have ****** it up and made the entrance three lanes ( i have drawn roughly how they have widened it) and not put any markings on it so literally no one knows what to do and it just results in the three cars (if there is one in each lane) getting squished!

I suspect they intend the left hand lane to be taking the 1st exit only, but even then i don't think the roundabout is wide enough for that. If all three lanes set off at the same time, it still results in a bottleneck.

I literally have no idea why they made it worse when it was working perfectly before.

 

[danlightbulb]

In my driving experience the people who design most of the road network are idiots.

 

[rodenal]

Sounds like they need to widen that left lane and make the first exit the only possibility like you say.

Also sounds like they've done half the job....starting with the "wrong" half

 

[Rroff]

In my driving experience the people who design most of the road network are idiots.

You do have to wonder sometimes - they changed one roundabout in a town near me so it was lethally dangerous at night. Somewhat related as wel while closing one lane of a dual carriage way to do work they placed the closing signs after the actual closing with the cones and layout done in such a way that people merging over appeared to be cutting you up if you were in the other lane as they blocked your view of the closure and signs! (total idiot whoever was responsible for that one).

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Don't worry, there is a roundabout near me that has 3 entrance lanes at various points but the roundabout is only is just about wide enough for 2 cars to go side by side. Its technically only 1 lane and 3 certainly can not get round...

The next roundabout after that is another 1 lane wide but just wide enough for 2 cars. Two of the opposite entrances have 2 lanes marked straight over but both opposite exits are only 1 lane with no space to merge in turn. I just don't understand what they were thinking here...

Needless to say the horn gets regular use round there.

 

[ZG002]

Yep they break stuff all the time for no good reason, recently changed a busy mini round about up here for a set of lights and have changed it twice since... also added a filter lane coming from the a19 dual carriageway as the lights were causing tail backs on a pretty busy road which fairly soon lead to an accident one morning which I believe was fatal :/

No issues with the mini round about that was there before, people just used common sense and filtered.

 

[Dr Who]

It looks like there is easily enough room for 3 cars if the left lane is for 1st exit only, problem is, without markings, it is asking for trouble as someone will always want to go 2nd exit from the left lane.

 

[Nasher]

Road designers do seem to make some odd choices. I think in the old days they employed proper architects to do it, so they were less dumb.

There are quite a few examples of where they have just used entirely the wrong kind of junction.

 

[Glanza]

Wonder if they've done that first before coming back to do the roundabout widening work.

 

[Jono8]

It looks like there is easily enough room for 3 cars if the left lane is for 1st exit only

Maybe just, but at the point just before the 1st exit turn off, it is very tight and not very safe. The left hand lane needs to be separated or at the very least proper signage and markings need to be done.

 

[Jamauk]

I've found recently there are a lot of lanes added approaching roundabouts but nothing done to the roundabout itself. Roundabout etiquette seems pretty bad anyway, but I quite often find when turning right I have to be aware of what is to my left as they seem to straight line it rather than actually going around it. Often makes me think the roundabouts need lines drawn on them to help the people that think they have right of way everywhere (and that isn't BMW/Audi drivers I'm referring to!).

 

[Scrutinize]

The left (nearside) lane becomes a direct slip for B2237 northbound traffic, middle is A24 southbound and offside lane is for Worthing Road or back to A24 north. Gives a reasonable theoretical increase in capacity.

Looks like it could be part of more works and isn't completed fully yet but will be as the local residential developments are built.

 

[Scania]

I’ve recently had the pleasure of that roundabout, whoever came up with this genius move didn’t consider large commercial vehicles!

 

[MikeTheNative]

I'm guessing there will be a left only bypass straight to the exit but apparently it makes too much sense to do that before making it three lanes.

 

[bJN]

I've found recently there are a lot of lanes added approaching roundabouts but nothing done to the roundabout itself. Roundabout etiquette seems pretty bad anyway, but I quite often find when turning right I have to be aware of what is to my left as they seem to straight line it rather than actually going around it. Often makes me think the roundabouts need lines drawn on them to help the people that think they have right of way everywhere (and that isn't BMW/Audi drivers I'm referring to!).

Doesn't work. Norwich has had a new bypass open this year that is essentially 10 miles of dual carriageway with a roundabout every mile or so - which is the first idiotic design. Every roundabout has three lanes on approach from the dual carriageway; inside lane for left and ahead, middle lane for ahead, outside lane for right. Each roundabout has three lanes painted all the way around, but with no "turn off" guides. This results in people cutting across every lane just to turn off, usually without indicating. I've honestly never seen as many accidents as has occured in the three months the road has been opened - they've even installed cameras on some of the roundabouts that now have daily crashes. Complete madness and shows how inept the planners are.

 

[Jono8]

Doesn't work. Norwich has had a new bypass open this year that is essentially 10 miles of dual carriageway with a roundabout every mile or so - which is the first idiotic design. Every roundabout has three lanes on approach from the dual carriageway; inside lane for left and ahead, middle lane for ahead, outside lane for right. Each roundabout has three lanes painted all the way around, but with no "turn off" guides. This results in people cutting across every lane just to turn off, usually without indicating. I've honestly never seen as many accidents as has occured in the three months the road has been opened - they've even installed cameras on some of the roundabouts that now have daily crashes. Complete madness and shows how inept the planners are.

I can see this roundabout going the same way .

It is idiotic.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Looks like others have mentioned its going to get one of them "slip" lanes to turn left, with 2 lanes entering the roundabout.
And its clearly wide enough for 3 cars, dubious though if you add a commercial or 2 (lorry/bus)

However the main issue in these sorts of things is people trying to go too fast and in effect going in semi curve/straight lines rather than a proper circle, so the roundabouts feel narrower as the person closest to the centre is squeezed

More people need to get out onto the marbles round the outside

 

[Phemo]

In my driving experience the people who design most of the road network are idiots.

I'll go with that. This one down here annoys me particularly when coming from the east and heading straight over to the A3 on the west. Road markings clearly state that the left lane is for left and straight over. The west exit has 2 lanes so logic would say that the middle lane from the east exit is for straight over and the right lane for going right. However because the arrows point straight ahead for all 3 lanes it means getting cut up here is a very regular occurrence.

 

[Nasher]

I have one near me like that, but the markings are all faded badly.

Basically just put your foot down, jump ahead of the slow people and make your own lane, because no one knows wtf is going on.

 

[Jamauk]

I'll go with that. This one down here annoys me particularly when coming from the east and heading straight over to the A3 on the west. Road markings clearly state that the left lane is for left and straight over. The west exit has 2 lanes so logic would say that the middle lane from the east exit is for straight over and the right lane for going right. However because the arrows point straight ahead for all 3 lanes it means getting cut up here is a very regular occurrence.

Those road markings would work well, the problem though is that a lot of people can't think about the lane they're in and where they're going to at the same time!