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HD8800 Series Coming
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Caporegime
These are not going to be around for another 6 months.
You wait you wait in a constant looking for the best at the best price, you will never actually get the fastest and newest but only for the day, by the next day / week.... your card is old news.
My card was getting on for £300 on the day it was released, i held off for months knowing it would come down in price, and it did, i bought it at £240, within weeks it could be had at £210, should i have waited longer? perhaps. but oh no.... now the 8870 looks 30% faster and costs the same, i'll wait for that instead. but wait, if i wait a little more it will be even cheaper..... on and on the waiting game goes.
If your in the market for a new GPU now is the best time to buy, it will be another year before the 8### series cards are at rock bottom prices.
You wait you wait in a constant looking for the best at the best price, you will never actually get the fastest and newest but only for the day, by the next day / week.... your card is old news.
My card was getting on for £300 on the day it was released, i held off for months knowing it would come down in price, and it did, i bought it at £240, within weeks it could be had at £210, should i have waited longer? perhaps. but oh no.... now the 8870 looks 30% faster and costs the same, i'll wait for that instead. but wait, if i wait a little more it will be even cheaper..... on and on the waiting game goes.
If your in the market for a new GPU now is the best time to buy, it will be another year before the 8### series cards are at rock bottom prices.
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Quick! Catch it with a pokeball before it evolve into a wild troll!
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Quick! Catch it with a pokeball before it evolve into a wild troll!
lol....
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Quick! Catch it with a pokeball before it evolve into a wild troll!
Need a master ball.
In all seriousness, last time we were kept on the same fabrication process, price/performance did improve at the high end.
Can see the 8870 < 7970 similar to 6870 < 5870
However, this generation we've been violated for every last penny by both vendors, so while I can imagine the performance of the 8870 just being under the 7970, I couldn't possibly speculate on the pricing.
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This could explain the massive price drops on AMD cards.
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my crystal balls tell me that they definitely won't release mid range cards first, no one ever has despite all the rumours
I think 8970 will come at least 12 months after 7970 in the same way that GTX 780 will be around 1 year after 680
I think 8970 will come at least 12 months after 7970 in the same way that GTX 780 will be around 1 year after 680
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haha, well my crystal balls are non-detachable and my memory tends not to remember things it never paid attention to in the first place (like AMD release dates obviously)
that said, I still can't see them bumping performance by that much whilst slashing the release price to below current price of the previous gen
it will at least be the same price on launch as the current one, if not more
The only issue I would have with such an early release is that the pricing is unlikely to be competitive. If the 7970's where released with their current price, then I would have had two of them and waterblock's.
Instead I knew the price was overinflated and where obviously going to drop when Kepler came out, but unfortunately for AMD Gigabyte came out with a card so cool that it didn't require a waterblock so the total cost for roughly the same 24/7 performance was far cheaper.
That is why I switched to Nvidia, it was the more practical choice.
Assuming any die size increase is negligible then it should be cheaper for them to produce the 8000 series along with no requirement to increase memory or other features. The 7000's are great but the 8000's have the potential to hit every mark and be an overall winner.
Instead I knew the price was overinflated and where obviously going to drop when Kepler came out, but unfortunately for AMD Gigabyte came out with a card so cool that it didn't require a waterblock so the total cost for roughly the same 24/7 performance was far cheaper.
That is why I switched to Nvidia, it was the more practical choice.
Assuming any die size increase is negligible then it should be cheaper for them to produce the 8000 series along with no requirement to increase memory or other features. The 7000's are great but the 8000's have the potential to hit every mark and be an overall winner.
Meh, I used to have a Radeon 8800, the GF3 Ti500 walked all over them
I had an 8500, and at the end of the cycle it stood up against the 4200ti once the drivers had improved
SM1.4 as the main fall back also helped in later titles.
It's not waiting for waiting's sake, as you imply.
Today, I could spend £150 and get a 30-40% improvement in performance.
Or I could wait for the next gen, spend £150 and get 70-80% improvement (if rumours are true).
At some point the scales tip from "not really worth it" to "I must have this card!"
That's why I wait. I want the upgrade to be worth it.
Soldato
I dont care what happens as im skipping the 8xxx cards anyway.. but if they come out sooner than later, then the 7xxx prices drop.. thats when i go crossfire 
Caporegime
I agree with Andybird on this. Top cards first with binned chips for the mid range cards. I would be very surprised to see a mid range card at that suggested price also.
Take it with a bucket of salt me thinks.
Take it with a bucket of salt me thinks.
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What amazes me is that my 6870 is currently sitting at £150 on sale here, however I bought this exact card on June 2011 for £125.
Once I figure out the logic in that pricing I will get back to you.
Caporegime
They remain high like that for the people who wish to go Crossfire. They would rather you bought a newer gen GPU than have crossfired old gen.
Oh come on. If someone has bought a new card, and then another comes out with substantially better performance for not much increase in price, of course they are going to express disappointment.
It doesn't mean they want cards to advance at a crappy rate, it's just natural to regret their purchase at such a time.
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Bear in mind that it's only now that they're hitting that price point... It's unlikely.