HDMI Splitter (Decent)

[PaulC2K]

The monitors werent a concern, they'll take whatever and show it as 1:1 or stretched if i said so. The only concern was the TV. Eventually i was able to get it working at native resolution, though i didnt touch the refresh rate.

The current issue (and only one im interested in) is that the TV receives a fullscreen 1080p signal from the microserver if its connected directly, as soon as the duplicator is added (no 2nd output connected) then it becomes a 90% fullscreen 1080p signal, and when 3D plays the tv instinctively seems to make it full screen but it looks like theres still 90% of the image, the left eye having its 90% aligned to the left, the right doing the same on the right, and what happens is they're is a noticeable black border created on both sides and the content isnt aligned as its not a 100% image.

The duplicator seems to be responsible for this. Its interesting about the non-60.00Hz setting though, never knew of such things.

 

[Confused]

That sounds like the "Overscan" or "Underscan" settings - I'm guessing your Microserver has an AMD graphics card?

The AMD drivers are a right pain with that - I had to resort to editing the registry to try to prevent my HTPC from attempting to apply underscan/overscan. Here is my post in the XBMC thread that outlines what I eventually had to do to remove the underscan/overscan.

 

[PaulC2K]

I've taken a couple of photos, it shows it better than i can explain really.

Computer -> TV

Computer -> Duplicator -> TV
Pixar Paperman in '2D' mode, notice it doesnt fill the screen

Pixar Paperman in 3D mode, tv stretching it when it goes into 3D mode, now the black border is only on the sides where the other side hasnt stretched 100%, its faint but better in the next image.

Pixar Cars in 3D mode, a better example of the alignment issue

Close up of the image.

edit - im also going to point out thats not 3D working correctly, on the off chance someone tries to explain i need to put glasses on to see it correctly theres a huge mis-alignment, not the minor one 3D requires to work.

 

[PaulC2K]

Confused - that's interesting, by any chance does the photos i've added match what you were experiencing?

What is throwing me is that if this was a 100% driver issue (which is exactly what i thought it was and spent ages last night trying to address this) then shouldnt it still have the problem with the duplicator removed, its only when the duplicator is in the line that it gets screwed up.
If its a matter of uninstalling the CCC program and just installing the basic drivers that could be doable, one minor issue i had previously is that the microserver gets moved from time to time, and when it comes back it redetects the resolution again and picks 1080p (which my old tv could accept, and downscale to 720, but it doesnt look as nice as native) and then i'd have to use an app for registry editing to add a 1366x768 entry which eventually it'd accept. Maybe that was CCC at fault too, im not sure, but i'd really like to avoid registry stuff simply because its required every time i move the PC. If it was a 1-time thing and it was staying there, it'd be fine. Eventually i'll buy another microserver as i'd welcome more HDD space and not carting the machine up & down once a week if not more frequently, but thats something else, its more a matter of reg edits being a regular requirement. If it works, i'd use it once i had a 2nd machine in the other location though.

 

[Confused]

Mine would essentially every now and then look something like this:

And I'd then have to go in to CCC and set the "Scaling Option" back to 0, which would fill the screen properly again.

Uninstalling CCC seemed to solve it, as well as checking all of those registry settings.

(Although, I've since updated my HTPC to Windows 8.1 and had to reinstall the AMD drivers, which also reinstalled CCC, and it's happened a couple of times again since, so I need to uninstall CCC again!)

 

[bledd]

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[PaulC2K]

Mine would essentially every now and then look something like this:

And I'd then have to go in to CCC and set the "Scaling Option" back to 0, which would fill the screen properly again.

Uninstalling CCC seemed to solve it, as well as checking all of those registry settings.

(Although, I've since updated my HTPC to Windows 8.1 and had to reinstall the AMD drivers, which also reinstalled CCC, and it's happened a couple of times again since, so I need to uninstall CCC again!)

Yeah, maybe that is what i need then, i'll give it a go anyway. Cant hurt.

 

[PaulC2K]

I've uninstalled CCC, modified 3 instances of 'TVEnableOverscan' to 0x0000000 (0) from (1) and rebooted, but its still 90% size. Everything from BIOS to windows is 90% size, windows without a GPU driver is 4:3 and 90% still.

My CCC also appears to be extremely limited, and it has a very high crash rate, i can usually get in 2 areas before it just seems to sit there unresponsive, then requires the process killing, restarting, killing, and then restarting it again and it'll reappear. Theres no My Digital Flat Panels > Properties to go into there and tell it to do anything. Its really barebones stuff, nothing like what my desktop card shows (this is a lowly 5450).

Im attempting (and failing!) to install Server 2012 R2 Essentials on an old drive (WHS2011 currently) as it has a few features i could do with but im on a 'try before you buy' version and figured i'd see if it installed the drivers any better there (when it gets to the OS, which is a rarity in itself!) its also 90% size then.

If its doing this in WHS2011 and Server 2012 when there is no CCC influence, only pre-installed OS drivers, isnt it unlikely that this is an overscan/underscan by driver issue?
Server 2012 seems a waste of time too, install it with the NIC controller disabled and i have no network card and cant finish the install at the desktop, and if i have it enabled it hangs before getting to the OS (it got in last night, enabled, when i went to network devices and tried to click 'enable device' on the card it hung before i'd even hovered over to click it!)