headphones

Quag1986 · 13 Jul 2008 at 21:26

are there any in ear headphones that also act as industrial ear defenders? need them for work and would rather listen to my own music over xfm or radio 2

badbob · 13 Jul 2008 at 21:27

Canal phones?

mmorpheus1 · 13 Jul 2008 at 21:50

just stick your ipod on then the ear defenders over the top, works for me , but dont let the H&S rep catch you , its against H&S regulations

Mansize_tissue · 14 Jul 2008 at 12:48

Beyer Dynamic DT 770 Pro.

I wouldn't suggest canal phones, IEMs are far more isolating.

james.miller · 15 Jul 2008 at 15:44

canal phones are IEMS :confused:

ive no idea why people like to make a distinction. they both go deep in to the canal, its just that for some reason people have associated 'canalphone' with the cheaper end of the market. why i dont know. take a look at the super.fi pro 5's, just for example. they dont go any deeper than any canalphone. yet i guess because UE call them monitors and not 'earphones', people give them the IEM tag.

bailey12856 · 15 Jul 2008 at 16:35

I just use my shure earphones, i have the foam sleeves on them so they isolate noise too not superb but half decent at least. But like mmorpheus1 said, dont let your safety rep or anyone high up catch you, as mp3 player aint classed as intrinsically safe

Philbob · 15 Jul 2008 at 18:59

The DT770 Pro's are good, but I wouldn't rate my set as ear defender good. If you're willing to spend a bit more there are the DT770 M's which are rated to 35dB of sound isolation (as opposed to 18dB for the pro model)

bailey12856 · 15 Jul 2008 at 19:31

Philbob said:
The DT770 Pro's are good, but I wouldn't rate my set as ear defender good. If you're willing to spend a bit more there are the DT770 M's which are rated to 35dB of sound isolation (as opposed to 18dB for the pro model)

Personally I dont think he would get away walking around with a set of DT770s on his head in a workshop/worksite

Mansize_tissue · 15 Jul 2008 at 23:00

james.miller said:
canal phones are IEMS ive no idea why people like to make a distinction. they both go deep in to the canal, its just that for some reason people have associated 'canalphone' with the cheaper end of the market. why i dont know. take a look at the super.fi pro 5's, just for example. they dont go any deeper than any canalphone. yet i guess because UE call them monitors and not 'earphones', people give them the IEM tag.

They aren't the same though.

Canal phones tend to sit in the opening of your ear canal (e.g. Denon C700, certainly not cheap) whereas IEMs tend to sit deep inside your ear canal (e.g. Etymotic ER-4). I've also heard that IEMs can provide up to 23dB isolation whereas canal phones can only do around 15dB, although I'm sure these boundaries aren't set in stone for either type of 'phone.

Denon C700 (canal phone)

Etymotic ER-4 (IEM)

One more thing, IEMs tend to use armature drivers, so the body of the 'phone can be made a lot smaller and doesn't prevent it from being inserted deeply into your ear canal, whereas canal phones tend to use dynamic drivers. My Atrio M5s don't conform to this generalisation, but they get around not being able to fit the body of the 'phone into your ear canal by having longer tips.

james.miller · 15 Jul 2008 at 23:57

yesa but as you can see, the super.fi pro 5's are supposed to be 'IEM's' yet they reach as far as the denon c700's. it's all nonsense.