Heat Question...

jcb33 · 28 Jun 2007 at 13:41

Hi all, Spec:

4800+ X2 @ Stock,
A8R32-MVP Deluxe,
2x 1GB PC3200 OCZ DDR1,
2x 300GB Maxtor 6 V300F0 HDD,
2x SONY DVD RW DW-G120A,
Floppy disk drive,
ATI Radeon X1900XTX 512MB,
Windows XP MCE,

I have had this computer a year, and it use to run at a nice tempreture, however since it has been at uni it has been getting progresivly hotter!

At stock I get the following tempretures:

CPU: 54C
Motherboard: 40C

Under Load:

CPU: 68C
Motherboard: 41C

Is this bad for my CPU? What can I do to fix it?

It has stock cooling, an air exaust thing in the case, and 4 fans in the case!

Thanks, Jcb33

benjo · 28 Jun 2007 at 13:44

That CPU is getting rather hot. What cooler have you got? Try re-seating it and clearing out any dust if there is some.

edit: just read you say stock cooler

dun · 28 Jun 2007 at 15:07

benjo said:
That CPU is getting rather hot. What cooler have you got? Try re-seating it and clearing out any dust if there is some.

edit: just read you say stock cooler

Bingo. Combined with the summer (although doesn't really feel like it at the moment) will be contributing to higher temps.

jcb33 · 28 Jun 2007 at 15:10

dun said:
Bingo. Combined with the summer (although doesn't really feel like it at the moment) will be contributing to higher temps.

What cooler would you suggest then for socket 939

Preferably just clip on as I dont want to take the whole mobo out to install a new heatsink

dun · 28 Jun 2007 at 15:36

jcb33 said:
What cooler would you suggest then for socket 939 Preferably just clip on as I dont want to take the whole mobo out to install a new heatsink

Have you made sure the current one hasn't got clogged up with dust first?

I'm always wary if something starts gradually deteriorating.
On my 2nd computer I have a Arctic freezer 64. It keeps the cpu in the 30's, some times tickling 40c, and thats with the fan on a controller set at 1400rpm, with just one case fan on about 5v (like it to be quiet).
Just had a look though and they don't seem to stock them anymore so perhaps the pro version would be the best bet for the price. Obviously you can spend more and get a better cooler but I wouldn't recommend double the price for a degree or 2

jcb33 · 28 Jun 2007 at 15:44

dun said:
Have you made sure the current one hasn't got clogged up with dust first?

I'm always wary if something starts gradually deteriorating.
On my 2nd computer I have a Arctic freezer 64. It keeps the cpu in the 30's, some times tickling 40c, and thats with the fan on a controller set at 1400rpm, with just one case fan on about 5v (like it to be quiet).
Just had a look though and they don't seem to stock them anymore so perhaps the pro version would be the best bet for the price. Obviously you can spend more and get a better cooler but I wouldn't recommend double the price for a degree or 2

Thanks, no not cleaned it yet, not got any canned air or such to do it with, and its quite expensive round here

BlastRadius · 28 Jun 2007 at 16:44

jcb33 said:
Thanks, no not cleaned it yet, not got any canned air or such to do it with, and its quite expensive round here

Just put your lips together and blow! You know how to do that don't ya?

dun · 28 Jun 2007 at 16:49

BlastRadius said:
Just put your lips together and blow! You know how to do that don't ya?

Cringes at wink...

Just blow in it (got a compressor at home? thats what I use...)or use a shock horror paint brush*

*Any electro static damage is not my fault

fobose · 28 Jun 2007 at 17:06

I usually just blow and use a hoover. (no jokes lol!) I dont touch the hoover on components it is used to suck away all the dust rather than it sticking to my contact lenses

Foehammer2003 · 28 Jun 2007 at 17:07

http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=1723 winner me thinks!

Pretty sure that aint a competitor, remove if it is

BlastRadius · 28 Jun 2007 at 17:09

Off topic

dun said:
Cringes at wink...

Just blow in it (got a compressor at home? thats what I use...)or use a shock horror paint brush*

*Any electro static damage is not my fault

I would just like to state for the record that I am completely heterosexual.

Slightly more seriously the best way is to remove all components and blow, dust, clean accordingly and remount - A good time to tidy cables etc as well.

jcb33 · 28 Jun 2007 at 18:11

Right being a noob to Socket 939, I could not fathom out how to get the heatsink off, I removed both clips, but it would not budge.... Saw some screws but could not get at them either.....

I took the fan off, and sucked out loads of dust with a vacume, will see how it goes now!

Update: After about 15 mins under load max Temps are:

CPU: 51C
Mobo: 34C

dun · 28 Jun 2007 at 20:31

jcb33 said:
Right being a noob to Socket 939, I could not fathom out how to get the heatsink off, I removed both clips, but it would not budge.... Saw some screws but could not get at them either.....

I took the fan off, and sucked out loads of dust with a vacume, will see how it goes now!

Update: After about 15 mins under load max Temps are:

CPU: 51C
Mobo: 34C

Great news. Glad its sorted mate

jcb33 · 28 Jun 2007 at 21:29

dun said:
Great news. Glad its sorted mate

Aye thanks for the help, still want to know how I get the actual heatsink off though hehe, seems firmly glued on....

But im happy now its working, seems a lot cooler so thats great

dun · 28 Jun 2007 at 22:52

No problem matey

Link - About 2:45 any help?

jcb33 · 29 Jun 2007 at 00:14

dun said:
No problem matey

Link - About 2:45 any help?

Little bit thanks, I remove the clips from the frame however and pulling on it wont budge it...

dun · 29 Jun 2007 at 01:24

jcb33 said:
Little bit thanks, I remove the clips from the frame however and pulling on it wont budge it...

Stock thermal pad on or 3rd party tim?

Might just be stuck on tbh, make sure it is all fitted properly etc and boot up the pc. Let it run some cpu benchmark to warm it up then power down and try it again. The warming of the tim might help a lot if you haven't tried it.

jcb33 · 29 Jun 2007 at 02:20

dun said:
Stock thermal pad on or 3rd party tim?

Might just be stuck on tbh, make sure it is all fitted properly etc and boot up the pc. Let it run some cpu benchmark to warm it up then power down and try it again. The warming of the tim might help a lot if you haven't tried it.

Not certain, got it as a prebuilt system, don't want to rip the CPU out though! Not actualy built a socket 939, last AMD I built was Socket A, and even my SLK-900 came off easier than this....

dun · 29 Jun 2007 at 11:33

jcb33 said:
Not certain, got it as a prebuilt system, don't want to rip the CPU out though! Not actualy built a socket 939, last AMD I built was Socket A, and even my SLK-900 came off easier than this....

Hmm. Well there used to be quite a few people ripping the cpus out when trying to remove the heatsink, if you pull straight up it shouldn't cause any harm but I wouldn't recommend it. However if it is stuck on as hard as you say pulling may be the only way to get it off

(On monday I had a similar problem with a friends northbridge fan. It was stuck on ridiculously tight with some seriously sticky tim. But pulling got it off eventually.)

oceaness · 29 Jun 2007 at 12:39

dun said:
Cringes at wink...

Just blow in it (got a compressor at home? thats what I use...)or use a shock horror paint brush*

*Any electro static damage is not my fault

If my heatsinks bad I chuck it in the sink with some soapy water.

For the fan I just use the Dyson, it's got a nice big brush end thingy

Also a twisting motion on the heatsink can break even thermal glue as the CPU cannot twist in its socket, still be careful.

If it twists easily its not glued and it's just sucked to the CPU by the fact the air cannot get in between - try lifting one side slightly first.