Hedge

[Gimpymoo]

When a hedge is being "enjoyed" by both properties but is rooted on one side and hedge not being shared equally, how do you decide how to neuter it?

That is the boundary wall on the right.

Me being a layman, it looks like three quarters of the hedge is in our garden and it does take up a fair amount of space with the neighbour having a few inches if that but want the benefits.

If I were to "thin" it out so it was cutback to the line of the wall, I doubt it would stand.

What is a compromise?

 

[bremen1874]

Who's boundary is it?

If it's planted on your land you'd expect it to be yours.

The fence on the left also appears to be yours because the pretty side is facing out.

You could just be unlucky and be responsible for both sides.

What does the paperwork say?

 

[Hedge]

Aren't the neighbours open to the idea of ripping the whole thing out and putting a fence up?

 

[Gimpymoo]

Aren't the neighbours open to the idea of ripping the whole thing out and putting a fence up?

They are a retired couple stuck in their ways I think and there is no line of communication with us, we do not get on. We have a young family and with that comes elements of noise, kids outside playing, kids being kids which then causes disagreements with each other, us then telling kids off etc. No effin and jeffin, just family noise. They do not like it and therefore do not like us. They have also not liked that we have not "done up" our house as quickly as they would like. All our resources have gone on the kids up till this point.

I think he likes "his" hedge.

 

[Daaaavvveee]

They are a retired couple stuck in their ways I think and there is no line of communication with us, we do not get on. We have a young family and with that comes elements of noise, kids outside playing, kids being kids which then causes disagreements with each other, us then telling kids off etc. No effin and jeffin, just family noise. They do not like it and therefore do not like us. They have also not liked that we have not "done up" our house as quickly as they would like. All our resources have gone on the kids up till this point.

I think he likes "his" hedge.

Check the deeds, hope its yours, if so, chop it up, burn it in the front garden and have a beer

 

[ci_newman]

As above, the only way to know for sure is to check your deeds.

If it's your boundary, you can do what you like. If it's theirs, not much you can do.

 

[Gimpymoo]

I cannot find the deeds owing to packing everything away while getting things done.

Is this the type of document I need?

https://eservices.landregistry.gov.uk/www/wps/QDMPS-Portlet/resources/example_title_plan.pdf

EDIT:

Found them.

There are no "physical" boundaries mentioned in the deeds, just the red line.

Not to sound thick but what am I looking for?

Tried to lookup neighbours title deeds but they are not searchable on the Land Registry.

 

[Gammawolf]

You are usually looking for T and H marks as described here which denote who maintains what:

http://www.landregistry-titledeeds....ation/boundary-presumptions.asp#t-and-h-marks

Check a few more documents, several of mine where as you showed with just a red line. I had a separate document which showed the T and H marks

Edit: Seems T and H are often found on deed plans and not title plans?

 

[Etheco]

Looking at that picture, If the wall is the boundary if you was to build that all the way down it doesn't look like there would be any hedge on their side.
But then that could just be because of how the picture is taken.

Once you confirm its yours build a wall I say

 

[LiE]

Tree appears to gone wonky

Sorry not helpful. We had a hedge which was shared, but was our boundary. Luckily we get on with the neighbours, who even agreed to pay half for the new fence.

 

[~Divine~Wind~]

Check the deeds, hope its yours, if so, chop it up, burn it in the front garden and have a beer

Job done, from the pic looks as if it's pretty much on your side.

 

[Gimpymoo]

Looking at that picture, If the wall is the boundary if you was to build that all the way down it doesn't look like there would be any hedge on their side.
But then that could just be because of how the picture is taken.

Once you confirm its yours build a wall I say

I was using the same logic of "continue the wall in a straight line".

How it looks in the picture is how it is.

Tree appears to gone wonky

LOL

Yes, need to get the tree removed before I demolish the shed. All the shed is doing at the moment is acting a crutch for the tree

Job done, from the pic looks as if it's pretty much on your side.

I would agree.

I need to check if "owner" is determined by where the roots are or where the leafs are. I think if the wall was continue they would have inch of bush

I suppose it would be polite to send them a letter with a picture showing the boundary plan informing them in 30 days time, work will commence and fence erected?

 

[~Divine~Wind~]

A letter, nah man don't pander to them.

A knock on the door and let them know, that's all I did with my neighbor to tell them we were looking at getting a new fence.
He took great pleasure in telling me it was my responsibility lol but I'd already priced it anyway haha

Also I've always been under the impression that it a tree/bush comes over the fence I'm allowed to cut it where it crosses over the boundary, and leave the rest on the owners side of the fence.

 

[Gimpymoo]

I've always been under the impression that it a tree/bush comes over the fence I'm allowed to cut it where it crosses over the boundary, and leave the rest on the owners side of the fence.

What if that then causes the bush to fall over?

If I trim everything on my side and that causes it to fall over, not my fault is it?

 

[darael]

What if that then causes the bush to fall over?

If I trim everything on my side and that causes it to fall over, not my fault is it?

Then that's their fault for failing to maintain it.

 

[Gimpymoo]

I will try talking to them and see what they say. Should be fun, he is a proper grumpy git.

I expect I will get grunted at and told "No". In which case I will just tell him it is within my boundary so we can do it the easy way or hard way.

 

[mjd]

I mentioned this in another thread, but don't assume either the wall or hedge sit along the true boundary line. Boundary lines are invisible and boundary features are rarely recorded accurately, largely because they often move over time and the change is not registered.What has happened with the hedge is that the oldies have trimmed back to the main stem or near enough.
If there is nothing on the deeds then the boundary itself is shared.There is nothing stopping you from doing as they have, though you could want to be fairly confident they won't kick up a stink.The hedge is unlikely to collapse as a result as it's strength is at the centre. The oldies are then left to decide whether they want to allow it to thicken their side to regain privacy etc..
The legalities of this are a mess and the whole process of trying to get things set in stone are just a huge money spinner for the legal profession.

 

[Etheco]

It is also odd the oldies have put up a fence against the brick wall? Doesn't seem to add much more height ether.

 

[Matt-Page]

I would guess the boundary is shared, and it's from the existing wall.

Have a conversation with them, informing them you plan to remove the hedge and have the wall extended the entire length of the garden at your expense. I would state it as your are doing it, rather than asking.

Gauge the opinion but I would stand firm that the hedge is on your land and you've the right to remove it.

If you go to a solicitor it will go on months, maybe years and will essentially never be resolved.

 

[Gimpymoo]

It is also odd the oldies have put up a fence against the brick wall? Doesn't seem to add much more height ether.

That was there when we moved in.

They are on an elevation above us so I think that is there to stop inadvertent gawping into someone elses kitchen

I mentioned this in another thread, but don't assume either the wall or hedge sit along the true boundary line. Boundary lines are invisible and boundary features are rarely recorded accurately, largely because they often move over time and the change is not registered.What has happened with the hedge is that the oldies have trimmed back to the main stem or near enough.
If there is nothing on the deeds then the boundary itself is shared.There is nothing stopping you from doing as they have, though you could want to be fairly confident they won't kick up a stink.The hedge is unlikely to collapse as a result as it's strength is at the centre. The oldies are then left to decide whether they want to allow it to thicken their side to regain privacy etc..
The legalities of this are a mess and the whole process of trying to get things set in stone are just a huge money spinner for the legal profession.

In this instance, the wall you can see starts at the front of the property so I have no doubt that it is the physical boundary or at the very least, a good indication thereof.

Even in worse case scenario, they own the wall, three quarters of the hedge are still on my side. You are probably right though that they have trimmed it all the way back and it is upto me to do the same.