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Help? i7 3770k upgrade options?

Smirnoffkites

Smirnoffkites

Smirnoffkites

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Hi,
Tricky question in current climate, but what should I do re. Upgrade from my current cpu. I’ll need new MB and Memory at minimum. Hoping to reuse as much as possible and in future upgrade GPU. So I’ll probably be in a situation where GPU will be bottleneck. But something I can live with until new GPU.

Spec:
i7 3770k. O.c to 4.4
16 GB 1600 DDR 3
ASUs p8z77-v
Megahelmz air cooler
750w power
Twin: Strix GTX 1080 Advanced 8GB in SLI
1440p 144 hz monitor
SSD
 
Smirnoffkites said:
Hi,
Tricky question in current climate, but what should I do re. Upgrade from my current cpu. I’ll need new MB and Memory at minimum. Hoping to reuse as much as possible and in future upgrade GPU. So I’ll probably be in a situation where GPU will be bottleneck. But something I can live with until new GPU.

Spec:
i7 3770k. O.c to 4.4
16 GB 1600 DDR 3
ASUs p8z77-v
Megahelmz air cooler
750w power
Twin: Strix GTX 1080 Advanced 8GB in SLI
1440p 144 hz monitor
SSD
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Simple. If you're on a budget get the best you can afford, if you're not on a budget get the best you can afford. For it's time the 3770k was the best desktop cpu on the planet and it's obviously served you well so do the same again . Ryzen these days has the edge and if i was buying a cpu today it would be a toss up between the 5900 and the 5950x. i personally don't see the point in buying a lesser cpu now to upgrade later as it rarely saves you any money in the long run.
 
Hi, thanks for your reply.

I’m not really sure on budget. As I was originally treating this as a step change to a new computer. But as I need cpu/mb/ram I’m essentially needing a new computer. Yes I’m going to try and reuse case, psu, ssd, GPU (temporarily). But these might also need to change if in the future the GPU needs a bigger case or psu etc.

I suppose I’m in the “I’m happy to push budget if using it wisely “ camp.

so maybe £800 /900 ish
 
Unless you're playing games that can still utilise SLI, or doing computational workloads, I'd sell off one of your 1080s. In this current insanity, you could fetch some serious money for it.

With an £800 budget and keeping the graphics cards, I'd be tempted to go Ryzen 5800X and a solid B550 motherboard with 16GB of 3600MHz DDR4. The 5800X isn't too far away from MSRP now so it's not like you're shelling out stupid money. Plus you have the option if you need it for a bigger Ryzen 5000 CPU later on.

If you're only gaming though, you can't beat the Intel 11400F and B560 motherboard board for a budget gaming rig.
 
If I was spending £800-900 I'd be looking at something like the following:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £869.92 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
​

Overkill for gaming (depending on what you play at least) but given how long you seem to keep your hardware it might be warranted.

In most cases the 11400F recommended by @tamzzy will be good enough, but personally speaking I'd spring for at least an 8 core.

Sell one of your 1080's as recommended by @LePhuronn unless the games you play actually play well with SLI or you need them for other reasons.
 
I know I could get a new cooler, but current cooler wouldn't work with AMD.

As per @tamzzy suggestion above:

  • Intel Core i5-11400F 2.60GHz (Rocket Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail = £149.99*
  • MSI MAG B560 Torpedo (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 ATX Motherboard = £149.99*
  • Kingston HyperX Fury 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX432C16FB4K2/32) = £169.99*
= £480



How does this compare to the suggestion above from @tamzzy

  • Intel Core i7-11700K 3.6GHz (Rocket Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail = £349.99*
  • MSI Z590 Pro WIFI (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 ATX Motherboard = £189.95*
  • Kingston HyperX Fury 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit = £169.99*
=£709

(Suggested by OC on Webticket) - £230 difference!!

Questions:
  • Whats the main difference between Z590 and B560 and would I notice in real world?
  • Is the i5 11400f significantly slower than the i7 11700k - Is the F overclock able? Would it be holding the system back, or should i save the £200 difference?
  • Why 3200 MHz vs 3600 Mhz - looks to be same price? Is there a difference?

Other brands/products are available, these are just the ones i picked semi randomly without research.


What price point would your suggested AMD system come out at, and would it match performance above?

If in the future i put a GTX 3080 into this (assuming my case and PSU work) would either of the above have issues?

Both will be an improvement on current system, so im ok there.

Cheers

S
 
@Gray2233 beat me to it. thanks for the AMD suggestion.

ok, we have three price points - £450, £700 and £850

How do I justify the extra ££, what do I gain?


Yes I will be selling one of my GTX 1080 Strix A8G, plus two EVGA GTX 660Ti's left over from previous build. So can make back some budget.
 
The justification is the higher clock speed clock speed to gain every fps as possible which is more prevalent at 1080p. Then the 11700k adds 2 more cores .

You havs to decide if its worth it .
 
Hi all,

I've done some further research into reviews etc. I've also sold my spare Asus Strix GTX 1080 and 2 spare GTX 990ti's - For over £500!! So I'm now ready to push on with the upgrade, and have decided to go Team AMD. Using my existing case, PSU, remaining GTX 1080 and SSDs (I might throw in an M.2 as new MB support it - should I put Windows 10 on the M.2 or should I put my games on it?)

Current Basket is the following. Am I in the right ball park for matching my parts together? The one thing I haven't picked is cooler. My current one is Intel only, the 5600X comes with the wraith, I'm not going to overclock until I invest in upgraded graphics and I've 5 case fans, so was thinking I could use the Wraith to start with. I've heard its ok for a freebie.

Thoughts/anything missing/should swap out?

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £695.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)




Existing Stuff:
  • BitFenix Raider Case
  • Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 750W V2 High Performance '80 Plus Bronze
  • 5 Arctic F12 PWM 120mm Case Fans
 
Same VRMs, has WiFi6, and cheaper to boot! (ie not paying for the Tomahawk branding)
Cheaper SSD and double capacity...PCIE 4 is kinda wasted for NVMe SSDs at present...and when it isn't can always use the PCIE 3 SSD on the 2nd M.2 slot - and with a 1TB NVMe SSD, just chuck windows AND your games on it
Cheaper RAM and also very likely overclockable to 3600+ and with better timings than the kingston ram
And with the money saved from getting sensible value parts...can get a very nice CPU cooler

Best of all...still £15 cheaper than your basket lol

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £679.41 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​
 
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OP,if you intend to keep the new system for as long as your Core i7 3770K,I would be looking at least at 8C. 6C is the bare minimum I would go for now,but only if the CPU is under £200. Anymore,and I would find some extra funds to get an 8C or 12C CPU. ATM,most games are inter-generational so realistically don't need more than 6C. However,as more games move to the new generation consoles as the main development platforms,I would expect 8C would start to get utilised far more.

My choices would be:
1.)Budget - Core i5 10400F/Core i5 11400F with a £100~£130 B560 motherboard
2.)Mainstream - Core i7 10700(as long as its closer to £200)
3.)Higher end - Ryzen 7 5800X/Ryzen 9 5900X
 
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