HELP - it's overclocking by itself!?!

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Hi guys

I've just bought an Asus P5B Deluxe & C2D 6600.

When I've switched it on for the first time it's come up with several error messages...here's the situation...

First screen at switchon
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Screen 2
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BIOS Settings - I have no idea about overclocking so I would appreciate it if someone could tell me if these are right or not.

BIOS main screen
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BIOS advanced
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BIOS advanced - north bridge
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BIOS power
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Looking at the hardware monitor in the bios the temperature is constantly climbing steadily , when it got to 46oC I switched it off. The CPU fan is working - up to 1700rpm.

What should I do??? I don't want any overclocking - just a stable PC!
 
You must have the option for adaptive overclocking switched on in your Bios.

Bare with me as this is from memory and my head memory is borked.

In Bios there is an option to choose your CPU speed/frequency
Go in there and set it to default for starters then save and exit.
Post more pics of your Bios if you can't find it, post back or summit & it'll get sorted.
 
Hi, thanks for the instant reply, really helpful as I'm pretty much doing this -> :eek: :confused: :eek:

I think I found what you mean it's called "Intel Speedstep" - here's an image - I've disabled it now.

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The overclocking error message has gone now but it's still running stupidly hot...in fact it's just locked up in the BIOS which must mean it's really hot....how hot can the C2D 6600 get up to safely?

I don't get it as I've applied Arctic Silver 5 in a vertical line down the chip as the instructions say to do....

*head in hands* I hate computers sometimes.
 
The speedstep is not an overclocking feature, its more of an underclocking feature that will allow your cpu to slow down when you dont need full power.

Not sure where you find the settings you need to change but its not going to be the speedstep one.
 
Oh.....damn...cheers for the info!

I've enabled that setting again...it's not giving me the error message again (though I thought it would have enabling that setting again)...but the temperature is sitting around the 48oC mark...that can't be right can it...?
 
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definately sounds like a temp prob.
when you say you've put the as on in a straight line you did spin your sink around to spread it yes?

Jobe


ps oh and idle temps are in the low thirties i think.
 
If its the first time you've switched on your pc after building then its normal for that to come up surely?

Once you've saved all your settings in the BIOS and rebooted then it should be fine and you won't see the message again.

46 degrees is not hot for a conroe under air either, so relax :)
 
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If its the first time you've switched on your pc after building then its normal for that to come up surely?

Once you've saved all your settings in the BIOS and rebooted then it should be fine and you won't see the message again.

46 degrees is not hot for a conroe under air either, so relax :)
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I think mine was in the low 30s on air (no load - ie BIOS idle) and 26 with a scythe ninja (no load) - so his temps seem quite high to me.

Are you using the stock cooler? Is it seated properly??

Would it say overclocker failed (at stock) if the temps were too high?? Even though 50C is high it shouldnt be in the overclock failing zone. Could is be a CPU/mb defect??
 
Thanks for the posts guys

It does seen that the overclock message was just a setting that sorted itself out on a reboot so that crisis is over.

I'm still not happy with the temps though...I'm resetting the heatsink now to see what happens - it is the stock cooler btw.

*update*

The stock cooler seems to be only spinning at about 800rpm now...then it's dropping into 790 range and the bios reading goes red...perhaps something is wrong with it...think I should probably get myself another one! :(

Any suggestions? :confused:
 
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My 6600 with intel stock cooler idles at 35 degrees with a system temp of about 25 Degrees according to the BIOS on an MSI P965 Platinum. Yours seems high to me though I am by no means any kind of expert.

I notice from your screen shots that no fans are registering any speeds except the CPU fan. There ARE other fans are there? You should have at least one fan close to the heatsink extracting air from the case.

You should have removed the processor and cleaned off all the thermal grease from the processor top and heat sink bottom with appropriate cleaning solutions. You are not re-using the grease are you? No Finger prints. Heatsink properly locked down? Absolute cleanlines is pretty important before applying grease. I used new coffee filter papers to clean up - not a cloth of any kind.

Is your line of grease aligned correctly on the processor top (see the arctic silver website if you haven't already - sounds like you have). It should follow the processor chip hidden underneath the processor's heat spreader, not cross it (The arctic web bsite shows this better than I can explain).When seating the heatsink on the processor give it the tiniest rotating side to side wiggle only. Don't use too much grease. More is definitely not better.

Is there any possibility the heatsink is not resting on the top of the processor but on some other component instead like one of the capacitors around the processor.

Is the pressure plate thingy on the motherboard processor socket locked down properly?

Incidentally be a bit careful - during my installation I noticed the the processor plugging in and locking mechanism seems only to be rated for about 20 actuations. Not unreasonable but not much either.

Not sure it would affect fans but are all correct power leads attached to motherboard?

Is CPU fan attached to correct mobo header.

Please don't be offended by the simplicity of some of these suggestions. :)
 
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Hi thanks for your post, don't worry about asking basic questions.

The other fans weren't registering as I had only plugged the basics in to test it booted (had faulty RAM before and it wouldn't boot)

I did apply the AC5 correctly, and cleaned the HSF and CPU with proper cleaner before applying it.

Everything is properly connected and nothing is in contact with anything it shouldn't be.

I noticed that with QFan control on it was dropping to 800rpm with the temps at 43oC and rising, if I took QFan off the rpm went up to 1600 but it still isn't cooling it properly....either it isn't being powered properly or it's faulty...I think.
 
Well I sort of followed the 'don't worry about temps' advice and booted to windows and installed speedfan.

Strange thing is it was reporting cpu temps of only 32oC :eek: :D

It stayed steady there for a bit, then I restarted and looked at the hardware monitor in the bios...it showed 38oC and started climbing from there...

Booted back to windows and speedfan shows it steady between 32-34...weird eh?

It seems to be all OK though...perhaps the bios was misreporting, or could speedfan be misreporting?
 
Speedfan suxs the big one mate and Cannot be trusted in my own experience.
What does Asus probe say ?
You can set Asus probe temps to set off an alarm at whatever temp you want.
Set it at 45c and then Push the system and see if it Alarms.
 
Another little point...

I think there are two temperatures associated with your CPU. Since the CPU is quite expensive double check what I am saying.

There is a sensor in the CPU socket on the motherboard which is what the BIOS uses to report temperature.

There is another one built into each core of the processor near the hottest part. Software utilities are available to monitor these temperatures (Core Temp for instance). Obviously the temperature sensor in the Cores will give a somewhat higher temperature than the socket sensor.

Temperature monitoring utilities don't give absolute correct results. I guess the correct way to use them is find one you like and monitor differences reported for various CPU loads over time. Don't worry about the actual number unles it is extreme.

Make sure you are comparing like with like when discussing temps with people in this thread.
 
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Thanks for the information, I've downloaded both Core Temp and Asus PC Probe II.

Results:

Speedfan:
System = 28
CPU = 35
CPU Fan = 1696

Asus Probe:
System = 28
CPU = 34
CPU Fan = 1687

Core Temp:
Core 0 = 31
Core 1 = 34

They all look very similiar so I guess things are working OK at the moment! :D

The computer isn't doing a lot though...just checking a new 600Gb partition for any errors etc before I start using.

I'll fire up Fear Extraction Point later with the alarm warning running in the background and see what happens!
 
Probe temps look good to me and the Alarm feature is well handy when pushing/tweaking etc.
Your fan speed is quite low though which is a good thing as far as noise is concerned but obviously not as far as cooling goes.
Have you any way of increasing fan speed if needed ?

Of course ignore fan advise if the fan is Large or you are happy with the temps as is.
 
Download TAT or CoreTemp - Reading directly from the CPU is the only proper method of determining what the core temperature actually is. You cannot compare different motherboard manufacturers or even across different boards as the temperature sensors are placed in different locations and have different accuracy ranges.

And seriously - don't worry about the temperatures. The stock cooler is fine but there are lots of Core2Duo's where the top of the heat spreader is not flat so they sometimes run a bit hotter than others, but as long as you are not throttling or getting shutdowns then why worry?
 
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