help me choose a chipset and CPU out of these three

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hey guys,

so been playing some metro last light yesterday and the game looks stunning!
and ive also pre-ordered BF4 for friday!

SO... i need to get the full power from my 7990 and some more CPU power.
ive made three baskets that i would like, i want to save as much money as possible and i dont do any video editing or anything just pure gaming and general web browsing.

im also getting a asus vg248qe soon so will be playing at 1080p but at 144hz

this is my current system
i5 760@4ghz
msi p55 gd80
2x4gb xms3 1600mhz
HD 7990
OCZ vertex 2E 120gb
1tb HDD
cm storm trooper
YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus Crosshair V Formula Z AMD 990FX (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £173.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £99.95
1 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G186C9KRD) £71.99
Total : £477.31 (includes shipping : £9.50).


AMD FX8320

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Asus Z87 MAXIMUS VI HERO Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £169.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £99.95
1 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G186C9KRD) £71.99
Total : £593.32 (includes shipping : £9.50).


Intel i7 4770K

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus Z87 MAXIMUS VI HERO Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £169.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £169.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060009-WW) £99.95
1 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G186C9KRD) £71.99
Total : £523.32 (includes shipping : £9.50).


Intel i5 4670K

AMD mantle is really interesting me, and apparently even if a game it not coded to use for example 8 cores for a FX chip, the AMD API will still use all 8 cores to render the game, so AMD is seriously grabbing my attention and is the cheapest, but i want to hear from you guys first!

cheers guys :)
 
Mantle has potential, that is it right now, only one game is confirmed right now (We're probably likely to see more with other Frostbite games however). Apart from that it's a load of conjecture till we actually see results, which might not be till December.

It won't kick off if it's full AMD systems only, which potentially makes mantle a plus for both Intel and AMD, which is why it's somewhat funny to always see it touted as an AMD positive (Of course it'll result as being a positive, as it means you'll get more out of the CPU.) Of course, again, it may not work unless you're using a full AMD system, but then it simply won't kick off.

To get the absolute best, you must get an i7, especially if you're gaming at 144HZ, you simply wouldn't buy an AMD CPU to game at 120HZ, left alone 144HZ. You have more graphical grunt in the 7990 than the reviews which show differences with a single 7970, so the difference between the CPU's will be even greater, which given you're running at 144HZ, you want every last frame you can get.

Moogleys has a multi-GPU set up with an FX83 overclocked, he rates the i5 4670K set up he has over it in terms of gaming performance and feel.

You can bring down the cost of all the systems by getting ; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-021-CS

You can then get a lower board for the i7 set up ; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-434-GI&tool=3

So that's put the i7 build down to about 520.
Why are you buying new RAM anyway?

While I don't rate user reviews much, one of the Gigabyte Z87 OC owners says they upgraded from an FX8350 at 5GHZ to the i7 4770K and is pleased.
 
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While I don't rate user reviews much, one of the Gigabyte Z87 OC owners says they upgraded from an FX8350 at 5GHZ to the i7 4770K and is pleased.
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Equally we have a couple of people on here whom have gone the other way (intel > AMD) and admitted there was little to no difference. If I had the money I would get the i7, unfortunately I dont have sheets to burn so I chose AMD and it is performing just fine considering some comments I see regularly here.

:)

'Upgrading' from what you currently have is not such a big jump by any means. When you compare your basket setups I reckon if you wanted the big impact upgrade you have to go with the i7. If I can help it I would only upgrade the mobo/cpu every 2 years at the most. I wouldn't want to recommend the FX for the simple reason of unless the future developments perform well it wont last as long.

If you are constrained by a budget then it still is a good option.
 
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Equally we have a couple of people on here whom have gone the other way (intel > AMD) and admitted there was little to no difference. If I had the money I would get the i7, unfortunately I dont have sheets to burn so I chose AMD and it is performing just fine considering some comments I see regularly here.

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You don't need to justify your AMD purchase (Ergo, you don't need to keep saying why you bought it, I don't care) I stay out of the CPU forum almost entirely now as some people simply don't know what they're talking about half the time, there's so many inaccuracies in posts on a factual level it's pretty crazy.

The OP's gaming at much difference parameters, he simply needs the i7 to get the best, and the difference other people see depends entirely on the parameters.
You see people saying a Phenom II X4 with a 7970 was fine, then another will say it's a stuttering mess, likewise with other combinations, people are inconsistent :p
 
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The OP has asked about buying components which I have not long ago bought myself, I don't really understand the complaining - other than the standard same old we have been through before.

It's posts like yours that put me off (and probably countless others) as it reeks of pompous remarks about knowing more than others.

There is northing wrong with what I posted above and how I worded it I'm afraid. It is relevant to the OP, I think your adding personal spin on it now and it's not welcome!
 
But the parameters are completely different, your experience with your equipment will be different to what the OP requires, as are mine.

My parameters are closer to the OP's, but still off the mark (Single 7970, 120HZ screen).

There's nothing personal about it. I know what I know, I don't pretend to know anymore.

Saying it's "Just fine" doesn't really mean much, as the OP is going to be at a different level.
 
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Twas a bit harsh but he was trying to raise a valid point i think.. Anyone can waltz in (not that you were, you made your point eliquantly and clearly, a lot more than others do) and say my "8320 and 7950 are awesome"... no explaination atall...and no comparison.

While personal experiences are great for feedback unless you can compare it to othewr options (which is applicable to the OP) they are a bit nul and viod..

He may have been aking a joke though, im not sure.. His humour does have the same consistancy as sandpaper. :D

Back to the point in hand..

If you can afford the i7, go that way..

If not, get the i5.

That is my opinoin.

As the 7990 may be bottlenecked by the 8320 (iof games don't fully ultilise 8 cores).. where we know the 4670k will be fully used (doesn't rely on HT).
 
The 4670K may bottleneck the 7990 in some cases (I'm assuming with the i5 4670K, as most people use 2500k's and 3570k's, and you get too much inconsistency with people saying it's awesome and it's running perfect all the time, and again it bottlenecks, my last Crossfire was 7950 Crossfire, and I noticed no bottlenecking on a 2500K, but I know for a fact it would in BF3 multiplayer)
 
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looks like the CPU forum needs to invest in a bulk order of tampax...

back to the question, I7 or keep what you have till you can afford one.
 
ok guys, mantle's first appearance is in bf4's first patch in December?

i will wait for this before i do anything, im seeing a lot about haswell-E, X79 platform?

the main attraction is having more than 4 cores and all being used with games, is intel going to be pumping out CPU's with 6-8 cores on the mainstream platform?
 
Probably won't see any mainstream Intel Hexcores till 2015 at a guess, and it's unlikely it'll be on the 1150 Z87 boards.

Mantle may be very good in December with BF4, however, if it doesn't kick off, that one good showing is somewhat moot is it not?
Go full hog and go for an untouchable 4930k set up if you can, you could also get a 3930K set up (Second hand 3930K's are like 270).

How's your i5 750 handling the 7990?
 
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i see, just have to wait.

ive been looking but not a lot has come up recently

its doing better than i thought, was playing metro yesterday with everything maxed (physX off) and the cpu was about 30-60% usage and the 7990 was about 60-80% so i know theres more performance to be had, just want something so go to thats going to make me go WOW tbh
 
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