Help me design this network.

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Hi.
Im currently trying to come up with direction ideas for the network here.

It currenty has a DC that also does DHCP/DNS/File/Print, and an ISA.

I was gonna have everything virtualised on a 'super server'. But im considering a different route.
Im considering having:
2x Domain Controller (redundancy)
DNS/DHCP Server
File Server
Print Server/Application Deploy Server

Any suggestions/advice?
 
I assume you are also getting rid of the ISA server somehow?
Yes, web filtering for our network will be taken over by our FrogServer sometime in the next few months. Leaving our existing ISA free for other uses.

Whats your budget?
None at the moment. Its just in the planning phase. Although ive been working at a price point of about £15k+licences for the virtual server idea.

How many printers do you have to need a dedicated print server?
About 30. Makes our current DC slow down at times.

Ive been thinking of changing the config to the following:

- Two new servers, small HDD capacity(73Gb x2 Mirrored), 4Gb Ram.
Doing DC1/DC2 and DNS/DHCP on both.

- Two new servers, large HDD capacity (2Tb, 2x RAID 5 arrays), 2Gb ram.
One as primary storage for network, second as off site backup.

And then use the two existing servers as the WSUS/Print/App Servers.
Of which both are capable of doing in their current HW state.

That would mean, 4 new servers to buy.
Specing up, the DCs would come to £1500 each, and the File Servers, about £4600.
Making it a total of £12,200.
 
What are Dell like now?
We get some pretty big discounts for gear we order off them.
 
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how many client machines are there on the network?
Theres around 200 machines, 700 users. Usually all getting hammered at the same time.

my personal opinion of dell are "stay the hell away", but then ive had nothing but bad experiances with there servers (albeit quite old servers), HP are my faves for both switches and servers at the moment
All the switches we have here, by my choice, are HP ones. And the existing servers are as well.

Dell is fine if you have Gold support 24/7, in my experience you will need it.

HP and IBM iron just work more often in my experience. A good HP dealer will try his best to price match Dell if you can strike up a good relationship.
The problem im having is that the HP stuff, its hard to do a Dell, and spec it up myself on a website, give it to a supplier and say 'get this for me'. As everytime the suppliers 'expert he knows' specs something slightly different because they cant get the parts. Which annoys me somewhat.
 
Have both domain controllers run DHCP/WINS/DNS too. Seperate out DHCP so that each server manages different IP address ranges. That way if one DHCP server goes down at least the other is capable of handing out addreses in the meantime. Allow WINS replication between the two. Do DNS replication within the context of Active Directory so you can tighten security.
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Ive been thinking of changing the config to the following:

- Two new servers, small HDD capacity(73Gb x2 Mirrored), 4Gb Ram.
Doing DC1/DC2 and DNS/DHCP on both.

- Two new servers, large HDD capacity (2Tb, 2x RAID 5 arrays), 2Gb ram.
One as primary storage for network, second as off site backup.

And then use the two existing servers as the WSUS/Print/App Servers.
Of which both are capable of doing in their current HW state.
;) :)

Ive been thinking, that it might be worth my using the extra few £ 'spare' on the second file server to give it more than 2Tb of storage. Then it'll allow me to archive even more backups.
I want to get rid of tape usage completely.
Considering getting fibre cards for the two file servers as well, and giving them fibrelinks to the main switch, where the two DCs, WSUS & FrogServer will be located.

I can use one of the old servers for WSUS/Print/App Deployment Storage, and combine the second one with the lone server on our other network to beef its specs up a bit and provide some redundancy to that network as well.

We have 8 servers here and next year I'm going to upgrade all hardware and go virtualised.
What sort of HW are you planning for virtualising? Just the one server running several VMs, or multiple servers?
 
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