Help me install Vista to a DS4 - PLEASE!

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Ok, before I start, I have :-

Vista Business 32 Bit
Vista Premium 32 Bit
Vista Premium 64 Bit

All installed onto PCs in the house and they are fine. No complaints.


I can honestly say that I have also installed 32 and 64 Bit versions of Vista onto over 200 PCs, some have been upgrades, some fresh installs, and some have been fine and some not so fine, but my own has been a serious pain to resolve.

I have the Ultimate 32Bit + 64Bit Upgrade pack here, and I have had it close to 18 months and in all of that time, I have only ever had Vista 64Bit running well for one month, then, on the ver yday I activated it ( one Day 30 IIRC ) it BSODed and trashed itself non stop until on activation day + 2 I could no longer gain any kind of access to anything, I decided to wipe.

My main PC was a Gigabyte DS3 and now its the DS4 and I have failed massively to get it installed fully without me having some issues.

Can anyone offer any suggestions?

I have constantly gone back to XP64 as thats been flawless for me, but I really really want to have Vista64 on my main PC.

Ok, so, to kick us off, I am currently running XP64 and I take the 64Bit DVD and put it into a Drive... Lets not forget, taht the disks are UPDATE disks...

This is what I get

http://www.fatrakoon.co.uk/vista-1.jpg
vista-1.jpg


First of all, as you see the disks are all mixed up...

The BIOS and Windows XP, XP64, 2000, and hell, even Linux sees them all in the same order, but Vista sees them mixed around.

I had put this down to simply that Vista sees one controler first, while the others see *** second controler first, and so, thats fine...

I swap the drives around so that the Raptor36 ( My C: ) is seen first, but guess what? Vista then decides thatits changed its mind now?

Ok, so before you say anything stupid, what has happened 100% every single time, is that no matter what order I install Vista, no matter what order the Drives are connected in the board and no matter whether I have the Raptor on port 0,1,2,3,4,5,6 or 7, it will NEVER see the raptor first no matter what!!!

Even though it says that its C: in the picture, it will wipe that drive, copy the files extract and expend them, as soon as it boots, it will fail to boot due to not having a boot loader..

Now, Im not stupid, so dont say I am, but in the BIOS, I set the Raptor to be the first HD to try to boot from and it will still fail.

The ONLY way I have ever managed it, is to have the Raptor where it, is, and for it to be C: of course, with Windows on it, but, somehow the Media drive contains the Bootloader, in fact, the last time, it was my download drive that contained *** booter and in fact, its still got the Folders that it made and I cannot get rid of them without formatting the drive, so I will put another pic in to show you that...

http://www.fatrakoon.co.uk/vista-3.jpg
vista-3.jpg


Anyway, the Downloads drive is connected to SATA5 ( The top orange on on the left - above the purple SATA Ports )


Anyway, to run with my issues of hassles before I have even started, I am using the UPGRADE disks right, so naturally I should be able to upgrade!!!!

This has never happened.

This is what I get, if I try to click on next and install Vista onto XP

http://www.fatrakoon.co.uk/vista-2.jpg
vista-2.jpg


Ok, so while it does say that it can do it, but oh by the way its going to kill my old XP install by the way... I can live with that to a point, but its not exactly an upgrade is it?

Lets go back to the installation bit and the drive situation...

The best way I have found, is to physically remove all the HDs except the Raptor36, install Vista onto that, and then add the drives back in... This way I get the BIOS to see the Raptor first, and I get Vista to boot off it and I get it to be the C: Drive... WINNER!

That by the way is the one and only way I can do it... All other OSes are fine with me leaving the drives all in, but not vista.

This is of course providing I dont let it update any hardware... As soon as that happens, it fails to find the bootloader and Im back to square one, and back to having to reinstall

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So...

Anyone up for it?
 
Clearly not.

Anyone up for trying to explain why that PC is so awkward when all other PCs I have put Vista on are fine ( AFAIK )
 
Ok, how about this then....

There are 8 SATA Ports on the DS4

6 Orange and 2 Purple.

I currently have my Hard disks like this :-

SATA 0 = C: > Raptor36
SATA 1 = D: > Seagate 320GB ( Has 2 partitions and Partition 2 is F: )
SATA 2 = E: > Seagate 320GB
SATA 3 = M: > Hitachi 80GB

Obviously logical, Windows XP sees the disks in *** same order that the BIOS sees them and I boot to the RAptor which is SATA 0 and of course Drive C:

I want Vista to see the disks the same...

Actually, right at this moment in time, I would be perfectly happy to be able to simply get vista to see the raptor as C:, and at the same time, get it to boot from *** raptor too! - Even setting the BIOS to boot from the raptor only orks until you update the drivers, and then it tries booting from another drive.

Anyway, I was looking at another Board on the LAN, thats very very similar to the DS4 and thats my Abit QuadGT AB9...

Now, I have Vista on that running spanky and has done for some 7 months or so now without a glitch and it has been rock solid perfect, so, I was thinking...

Thats got 2 intel controlers, one has 2 SATA and the other has 4, so, does the DS4 have similar? I eman, can I just ignore the 2 SATA and use only the 4? - sure, I wil be missing 2 drive places, so it might look like this :-

SATA 0 =
SATA 1 =
SATA 2 = C: > Raptor
SATA 3 = D: > Seagate
SATA 4 = E: > Seagate
SATA 5 = M: > Hitachi

But at least it will keep its boot order, I can get it to boot from the one drive ( The Raptor ) and, in theory, as its not going to change its mind abotu which SATA Controler to suddenly use as the Main one, it should also stay bootable, even after updating the Sata Drivers?

The snag Im hitting now, is...

Which ones are SATA 0-3?

And which order are they for Vista?

I know that XP sees them in *** same way that the BIOS sees them 1, 2, 3, 4 and so on, like anythign normal would, but when under Vista, the order it sees the disks are 1, 3, 2, 4, 5, 6, yet, if I try swapping the Raptor over to become the first boot drive, it then becomes somehting completely different?

As I said, I have never ( without stripping the system down ) been able to get vista to see the Raptor as C:, no matter what boot order or where it is physically.

Hang on,I am waffling...

Maybe I should just use the Abit in this PC instead and have done with it?

But thats going to force me to strip down 2 PCs and have a fresh install on both, and thats going to take a whole day up I recon...

Still, it might be my last option
 
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