Help me run PlanetSide 2 on high

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This is my current system and it just about runs PlanetSide 2 on medium.

Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H Intel H55 (Socket 1156) DDR3 microATX Motherboard
i5 760 2.80Ghz (Lynnfield)
GeForce GTX 460 1024MB GDDR5
Geil 6GB DDR3
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3250410AS)


I am looking to spend around £300, within reason I can stretch to £500 but this is not ideal.

Thanks
 
This isn't supposed to be funny..

Yes, the game runs on high, but it locks up frequently and is generally unplayable. In populated areas it's not even worth trying.
 
This is my current system and it just about runs PlanetSide 2 on medium.

Gigabyte GA-H55M-UD2H Intel H55 (Socket 1156) DDR3 microATX Motherboard
i5 760 2.80Ghz (Lynnfield)
GeForce GTX 460 1024MB GDDR5
Geil 6GB DDR3
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3250410AS)


I am looking to spend around £300, within reason I can stretch to £500 but this is not ideal.

Thanks

This isn't supposed to be funny..

Yes, the game runs on high, but it locks up frequently and is generally unplayable. In populated areas it's not even worth trying.

The first problem is your GPU. 1GB of VRAM will not get you very far at all. You're better off upgrading to something like this:

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7950 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795F3G2M) with Crysis 3 & Bioshock PC Games £239.99
Total : £250.79 (includes shipping : £9.00).



While this is a great card, you'll most likely experience a bottleneck caused by your CPU. If you cannot overclock it to 3-3.2ghz, you'll eventually need to invest in a new motherboard, CPU & Ram:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CM) £40
Total : £234.37 (includes shipping : £9.50).

 
it is an EarthWatss 500W, it came with the case I got in 2007.

Would it be fair to say my current CPU holding me back then?
 
it is an EarthWatss 500W, it came with the case I got in 2007.

Would it be fair to say my current CPU holding me back then?

PSU should be fine but it's quite old...

As for the i3, googling around shows Planetside 2 only uses one core heavily, so at stock speeds the i3 will probably perform better than your i5. That's actaully very poor if the game can't even fully take advantage of two cores...
 
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PS2 is a CPU intensive game so an i5 would be beneficial not only for PS2 but other games as well, i3 is easily bottlenecked by latest GPUs ;)
 
His current setup is on par with a Phenom II X4 955BE or a SB i3. I'm not going to suggest "Upgrading" to an IB i3. It is tricky as technically everything could do with upgrading. Worth talking through and this will help your post count, at 100 you should get free P&P if you are mainland UK.

I have a 1GB 460. If you haven't overclocked it, do so. Turn off AA as that kills FPS and make sure you have the latest drivers aswell. I can play a lot of games with High or Ultra textures, you just have to be a little creative with the other options and make a "custom high profile". I think I can hold out till the next gen of GPUs but I do feel the itch a little bit ;)

With Haswell due in June you might well want to wait on the mobo upgrade. A 7950 would be a good shout for a GPU now, especially with the free games. There is the 7870XT which is £40-50 cheaper and is related to the 7950, overclocked it is a 7950 with a little less VRAM. Depending on your PSU you could even consider keeping the 460 to dedicate for PhsyX and CUDA support giving you the best of both or just flog it off to help fund the upgrade.

If I was trying to be crafty with my cash for a decent boost now rather than wait.....

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-2700K 3.50GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £221.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-GEN3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 (MB-380-GI) £52.00
1 x Thermalright Macho 120 CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £29.99
Total : £303.97 (includes shipping : FREE).



B grade mobo but it offers a lot for the price. It's SLi/Xfire capable (your PSU is the limit on GPUs) and has USB 3 and sataIII ports, being a Z series it can overclock the CPU. The Z68 was designed for sandybridge, the i7 2600K isn't to be sniffed at and will make a great all round rig. Sandy runs cooler aswell so overclocking should be easier, the Z68 can be updated to a UEFI bios to modernise it a little. A similar spec Z77 mobo will be over £100, with the SB and IB i5Ks being the same price it makes sense to get the newer CPU.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £179.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £112.99
1 x Thermalright Macho 120 CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £29.99
Total : £322.97 (includes shipping : FREE).



The 7870XT is around £200, so it would be £500ish all in. Spend a little time doing the easy overclocks and you get very good bang for buck. If your PSU is good enough then you might even be tempted to SLI the 460, as these can be found pretty cheap 2nd hand.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts, I don't envy making your choices ;)
 
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Have you overclocked the 460?
No. To be honest with you I am scared to overclock since my last episode, it was some time ago but I fried my chipset. I would like to look into this as an option, is it safer to do now?

Do you have 6gb or 8gb ram?

If 6 he will only be running single channel?

I have "Geil Black Dragon 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Triple Channel", I posted in the memory section because I think I may have a problem with this.

Thanks for the input honosuseri but will I am not sure a newer processor be beneficial for running this game? As mentioned the game can run on high with decent FPS but at times it will lock up - will more RAM and the 7950 be enough to resolve this?
 
No. To be honest with you I am scared to overclock since my last episode, it was some time ago but I fried my chipset. I would like to look into this as an option, is it safer to do now?

You should really start a thread in the overclocking section for the GPU and do a little light reading. I use MSI afterburner and I've had 900Mhz from my GPU although I do confess to having owned it a while. It has been disassembled cleaned and better TIM applied which helped temps.

Temps are what you need to watch really. GPUs can get hotter than CPUs. Mine is 80 degs max under heavy load and the noise is ok so I'm happy with that. As you up the overclock eventually it becomes unstable (ie crashes the rig), you can then up the voltage a little and see if it helps. AB only lets you set the max safe voltage, then only side effect is more volts is more heat. So you want to be sensible with the voltage anyway.

The software has a GUI which can show you in game your FPS, VRAM used, temps, GPU load etc etc. You can set custom fan speed profiles to tame the noise from the GPU too. All in all it's just handy kit to have ;)

To be honest it sounds like you need to troubleshoot the components with a bootdisk and verify what's ok. Hirens bootdisk can boot from USB memsticks or ultimatebootcd is another you could burn to disk. These give you the tools to test your RAM, HDDs (not SSDs!!), stress test the CPU etc etc, again handy kit to have. It could even be your PSU relating to the rig locking up, I don't know for sure, you will have to do the checks bud.

Upping the GPU will help, you'll have more VRAM to play with for a start. For £300 you could toy with a 128GB SSD for a fresh install and a decent GPU like the 7870XT or pushing it a 7950. Maybe even a B grade bargain, there have been 7950s at £180 believe it or not. You can use Afterburners GUI to confirm wether the GPUs are being used to their fullest I doubt they will be. Although I do find the 7870XT much more tempting than settling for a 7850.

Haswell will have a better IGP. I'm interested to see wether LucidMVP comes in on the new socket and how much gaming boost is given from the CPUs IGP. A better CPU and RAM would still help a lot to be fair it just depends when you want to upgrade them. You can always flog off your old kit to recoup some cash whatever you do.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £179.99
1 x Asus P8Z77-V LX2 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £79.99
1 x Avexir Core Blue Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CW) - Blue Light £40.00
1 x Thermalright Macho 120 CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £29.99
Total : £329.96 (includes shipping : FREE).



I don't think anyone would blame you for upgrading the GPU coping some games and having a new start on a SSD and wait on haswell....

YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire HD 7870 XT rev2.0 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with Tomb Raider & Bioshock PC Games £209.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD128BW) £109.99
Total : £319.98 (includes shipping : FREE).



Might as well have a little go overclocking the 460 since you have it once you have the rig running stable though......arrrrgghh I don't know you choose....... have you got a coin? ;)
 
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