Help me with a new build, no budget

marktruman · 3 Apr 2017 at 17:13

so my ltd company will be paying for my new build, so technically I have no budget

I will use it for gaming, movies blah blah the usual stuff, so here goes. I already have the r5 and its very silent. I don't overclock or watercool by the way

GPU - GTX 1080Ti
Case - FRACTAL R5
CPU - i7 7700K
Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ( Anything better? )
Ram - 16gb DDR4 3000mhz ( recommendations? )
mobo - recommendations?
ssd - normal ssd or the new m.2?
PSU - any recommendations?

stulid · 3 Apr 2017 at 17:26

How about Ryzen instead of the i7?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1800X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £499.99
1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming 5 AMD X370 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £204.95
1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £119.99
1 x Samsung 960 EVO Polaris 250GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £149.99
1 x Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1080TI 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £799.99
1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply= £99.95
1 x be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced CPU Cooler = £57.98
- AM4 Bracket:Be quiet AM4 Cooler Bracket

Total: £1,944.54
(includes shipping: £11.70)

marktruman · 3 Apr 2017 at 17:27

stulid said:
How about Ryzen instead of the i7?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 1800X 4.00GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £499.99

1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming 5 AMD X370 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £204.95

1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £119.99

1 x Samsung 960 EVO Polaris 250GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £149.99

1 x Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1080TI 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £799.99

1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply= £99.95

1 x be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced CPU Cooler = £57.98

AM4 Bracket:Be quiet AM4 Cooler Bracket

Total: £1,944.54
(includes shipping: £11.70)

I had my eye on the ryzen but I saw that it was lacking in certain games and the i7 7700k outperformed it?

stulid · 3 Apr 2017 at 17:28

Its getting better as game devs make game patches etc, also its hardly slow even in its current state.

marktruman · 3 Apr 2017 at 17:36

stulid said:
Its getting better as game devs make game patches etc, also its hardly slow even in its current state.

Its like 100 quid more expensive too? Not sure tbh, I game at 1440p, and I will be getting a 100hz monitor, I seen some benchmarks where ryzen benchmarks were like 20fps slower

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-review

stulid · 3 Apr 2017 at 17:59

Its slower at lower resolutions, 1440P+4K its not that far behind as its the GFX card that becomes more important.

Yes its like £100 more, but when games and apps use lots of threads it will perform very well.

More info on software updates etc to improve performance - https://www.techpowerup.com/231997/...bios-updates-patches-performance-improvements

marktruman · 4 Apr 2017 at 02:23

anyone know difference between asus rog 34" and acer predator 34"? theres about 200 difference

stulid · 4 Apr 2017 at 09:49

Can you link to the exact models (just incase there is small differences in model numbers)

Vish Petrol · 4 Apr 2017 at 10:02

Id go with ryzen, as review are reporting better minimums, and in one of the newer redgaming tech videos, a bios update for the msi titanium has resulted in large fps gains for some hitman and rise of the tomb raider.

would reccomend this ram though https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nnel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html

and this mobo instead https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-14z-ak.html

stulid · 4 Apr 2017 at 13:15

Asrock boards are not very good from my experience and the warranty+support is not as good.

As for RAM, not everyone is managing to get high speeds with 2933Mhz being easier to achieve.

marktruman · 4 Apr 2017 at 15:11

stulid said:
Can you link to the exact models (just incase there is small differences in model numbers)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/acer...e-zeroframe-curved-led-monitor-mo-109-ac.html

and

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...en-curved-led-monitor-black-re-mo-089-as.html

stulid · 4 Apr 2017 at 15:47

Both IPS, both Gsync, both capable of 100Hz, 3 vs 2year warranty.

Apart from the style and that the Acer is on offer (explains the £300 difference) I cant see any obvious difference.

marktruman · 4 Apr 2017 at 17:03

stulid said:
Both IPS, both Gsync, both capable of 100Hz, 3 vs 2year warranty.

Apart from the style and that the Acer is on offer (explains the £300 difference) I cant see any obvious difference.

thanks mate, you have been a great help

regarding ram, 16gb the sweet spot or should I go 32gb? I'm running 8gb atm of ddr3, so I presume any ddr4 will feel a lot better

Fanaticjam · 4 Apr 2017 at 18:17

marktruman said:
thanks mate, you have been a great help

regarding ram, 16gb the sweet spot or should I go 32gb? I'm running 8gb atm of ddr3, so I presume any ddr4 will feel a lot better

For gaming currently 16gb should be plenty.

marktruman · 4 Apr 2017 at 19:00

Fanaticjam said:
For gaming currently 16gb should be plenty.

roger that, and 3000hz is enough? I see 3200hz and 3400hz

stulid · 4 Apr 2017 at 19:20

3000Mhz is about right.

It might run at 2933Mhz though.

HoneyBadger · 4 Apr 2017 at 21:24

Asrock boards are excellent, I have 4. They are among the some of the fastest boards I've ever used.

8 Pack even runs one in his personal board.

marktruman · 5 Apr 2017 at 21:26

can someone give me some ideas for i7 7700k motherboard and compatible RAM?

Also, I need to be able to add a bluray drive to it ( sata )

lee32uk · 5 Apr 2017 at 23:53

marktruman said:
can someone give me some ideas for i7 7700k motherboard and compatible RAM?

Also, I need to be able to add a bluray drive to it ( sata )

You can't really go wrong with a Gigabyte board and Corsair Ram.

Here are a few different boards depending on how much you want to spend. The Corsair ram will fit under any cpu cooler as they are classed as low profile. There are cheaper kits such as the Team Group Night Hawk but they are pretty tall.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Ultra Gaming Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £149.99
1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 7 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £229.99
1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming K5 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £172.99
1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270XP-SLI Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £136.99
1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270-Gaming K3 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £131.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red (CMK16GX4M2B3000= £139.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B30= £139.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (CMK16GX4M2B30= £128.99

Total: £1,245.02
(includes shipping: £14.10)

marktruman · 7 Apr 2017 at 16:00

lee32uk said:
You can't really go wrong with a Gigabyte board and Corsair Ram.

Here are a few different boards depending on how much you want to spend. The Corsair ram will fit under any cpu cooler as they are classed as low profile. There are cheaper kits such as the Team Group Night Hawk but they are pretty tall.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Ultra Gaming Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £149.99

1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 7 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £229.99

1 x Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming K5 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £172.99

1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270XP-SLI Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £136.99

1 x Gigabyte GA-Z270-Gaming K3 Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £131.99

1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red (CMK16GX4M2B3000= £139.99

1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B30= £139.99

1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White (CMK16GX4M2B30= £128.99

Total: £1,245.02
(includes shipping: £14.10)

so I can pretty much pick any mobo? any reason for price discrepancy?

I'm going to be using 1080ti, 7700k, samsung m.2 ssd and will need to work with my bluray drive ( im sure thats a given but cant hurt to check ) I won't be overclocking, oh and a cooler master evo cooler