Help Needed!

[Jamieuk87]

Hello all, Im new to the forums. Just thought i would introduce myself.

Anyway to the point,

For christmas im having a Belinea 2225S1W 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor, and i dont think my graphics card is going to cope very well at all, i currently have a 9800 Pro 128Meg, i get a nice 125FPS on cod2 with my 17" CRT, but i dont think ill get the same FPS with the resolution of 1680 x 1024. Im not to sure about my budget but im thinking around £100, i dont want to go over board because next year i intend to build a very good PC. i Have seen these cards.

BFG GeForce 7600 GS OC 512MB DDR2 HDTV/DVI (AGP)
Processor: 7600 GS
Interface Slot: AGP
Memory: 512MB DDR2
Core Clock: 420MHz (vs 400MHz std)
Memory Clock: 800MHz

ATI Radeon X1650 Pro ICEQ 512MB DDR2 TV-Out/DVI (AGP)
Powered by ATI Radeon X1650Pro - 587MHz
512MB-128bit 4 channel DDR2 memory - 800MHz
12 Pixel shader processor
5 Vertex shader processor
8 Geometry Pipelines
Ultra-threaded SM 3.0 Engine
256-bit Ring-bus

Not to sure about these two, which one would i most likely get 125 FPS with full resolution?

and PS, if i do buy a graphics card anyone interested in a Radeon 9800 Pro, unfortunately i dont have the box.

any help would be much appricated thankyou for your time Jamie.

 

[touch]

how much would you want for it?

 

[Jamieuk87]

I have no idea mate, not sure what they are going for.

 

[thefishdude]

what cpu you running in that at the moment ???

 

[Jamieuk87]

2400 sempron+
1 Gig RAM

 

[locutus12]

2400 sempron+
1 Gig RAM

ok jamie,


first off your pretty screwed due to your CPU as its going to bottleneck the crap out of your system . secondly there isn't a card available for under £140 that's going to give you 125 fps in a modern gaming environment at those resolutions and that's provided you had PCI-E which you don't so you can instantly add another £60 to that figure .

you may be able to get your 125fps on COD 2 with the cards you have listed at the resolution you require but i highly doubt youl be able to run in maximum graphical detail and they will fail miserably to give a decent frame rate at those resolutions in more modern titles.

your best bet is simply to do nothing, wait until you have the money to build the new computer, about the only thing you could do to reach your desired level of 3d performance would be to buy an AMD Athlon 3200XP cpu for around £30, clock the hell out of it, then buy an X1950pro or 7900GS on AGP which are about £200 a pop simply because they are on AGP...

so im afraid unless your very rich and rather lazy, there isn't much point in throwing money at your current pc. save and build new later .

 

[Jamieuk87]

Well basically my suituation is that i will have around £100 where i can just upgrade my gfx card so that it will be able to handle the resolution with a reasonable fps instead of around 30, and upgrade fully next summer. You dont think it will be worth it? and if i sell the card in a few months i wouldn't get any return on it? and im not very technical with computers tbh, what is bottleneck :S?

basically it will run a lot slower than the graphics card? so it wont be able to preform to its maximum ability.

 

[postmanfw]

You will be struggling to find a xp3200 for £30 though unless from mm here. Normal 2nd hand value is still around £70+. Also there are a lot of fakes knocking about too.

Depending on mb your best shot would be to get a xpm2500 and overclock it and then get graphic card.

They can be had for maybe £40ish as people still dont realise their true potential. They overclock better than an xp3200 and most get to about 2400MHz at only a few notches up from standard vcore. All depends on the rest of your system though.

 

[locutus12]

Well basically my suituation is that i will have around £100 where i can just upgrade my gfx card so that it will be able to handle the resolution with a reasonable fps instead of around 30, and upgrade fully next summer. You dont think it will be worth it? and if i sell the card in a few months i wouldn't get any return on it? and im not very technical with computers tbh, what is bottleneck :S?

basically it will run a lot slower than the graphics card?

ok well first off a bottleneck is simply the slowest component in your pc. there's an old rule, your only as fast as your slowest component, modern graphics cards require vast processing capability in order to utilise there full potential, and im afraid thats something which your CPU at present isnt going to be able to provide so for example you could lose id guess anywhere from 5 to 20% of the total performance of the graphics card that you put into your system, depending on the graphics card of course. the more powerful, the more CPU power it would require.

if you are looking for something to tide you over, go find something like a second hand 6800GT on auction sites, they are faster than the two cards you have listed and should be available cheaper by now.

but all in all i have to say i dont think its worth it to buy a new card or cpu for that system.


p.s. set your trust system up with your e-mail

 

[Jamieuk87]

Ok thanks mate, i understand what you mean i have seen this card

NVIDIA GEFORCE 6800 GT 256MB GDDR3 AGP (6800GT)

for £68.00, you think that is a good buy, might be more tho depending on the bids.

GPU Clock Speed: 350 MHz
Memory Clock Speed: 1 GHz

Will that completely pwn my current 9800 pro?

 

[postmanfw]

Yep for sure it will beat your present card. Will probably go for a bit more than that though. Not sure how it will cope with that res though. What res are you playing at now to get 125fps? Is that in dx7 or 9?

 

[locutus12]

Ok thanks mate, i understand what you mean i have seen this card

NVIDIA GEFORCE 6800 GT 256MB GDDR3 AGP (6800GT)

for £68.00, you think that is a good buy, might be more tho depending on the bids.

GPU Clock Speed: 350 MHz
Memory Clock Speed: 1 GHz

Will that completely pwn my current 9800 pro?

buy buy buy buy buy buy....

if you want me to check it over for you, e-mail me the link. click "Trust" on the bottom of this post and youl find my details in there. you may also want to set yours up

 

[Jamieuk87]

yea thats setup, and there is an XFX 6800 GT going to for £50, shame i wont have the money till 22 December hopefully there will be similar products, and atm i use 1280 x 1024. no AA.