[help] new build advice

DO0MPY P0OMP

DO0MPY P0OMP

DO0MPY P0OMP

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I have just started a home build and it's my first one
Not looking to build something high end but something fairly decent for gaming and media ect and I just want a bit of advice


So far I have got

Large ATX case
Gigabyte 970A-DS3P motherboard
And AMD FX6300 processor

1) how much memory should I get? And what's the best brand to go for?
2) what sort of graphics card should I be looking for?

And really I just want some advice and suggestions of what else I will need
To go with the motherboard I have

Sorry if this doesn't make a great deal of sense as I am rather new to this (not computers in general but the building side of things)

Thanks in advance
 
You'll want:

1. A decent aftermarket cooler to overclock that CPU. Although you can run at stock with stock cooler if needed. Choose one that is designed to fit your motherboard's socket, and that will fit your case.

2. A video card that will give you the gaming performance you're happy with on your monitor (resolution/refresh rate). Any video card will be fine for media.

3. A decent PSU that will comfortably run that video card (plus CPU etc). Make the PSU choice after you know what the video card will be.

4. A solid state drive or hard drive, or both, e.g. 120GB SSD (for operating system/programs) + 1TB HDD (file storage). Some people choose to begin with a single 250GB SSD, and then add a mechanical drive later on when/if needed. Others just run with a mechanical drive if budget is not enough to include an SSD.

5. Memory. 2 x 4GB is still enough for gaming. Any brand that offers lifetime support will do. The actual memory is manufactured by OEM's like Hynix and then re-branded by other companies. For your CPU/motherboard, a 1600/1866MHz kit will be fine.

6. Operating system.

7. DVD drive to install operating system. There are other methods but it's easier to install from disc, especially first time around.

8. Check how many Sata data cables your motherboard brings. You will need one each per drive (SSD/HDD/DVD), so may need to buy extra depending on your final choices.


I suggest you add the shopping cart viewer* to your browser, and do a trial run with a potential spec, and ask for opinions on what you've chosen.

* http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18371076
 
You seem to be in the right place now..

It makes sense to me, id just like to know a little more.

1) Memory wise, for gaming, 8GB of RAM is more than sufficient. Teamgroup & Kingston are very good value brands, very good indeed.

2) This is where i need to know a little more.
What resolution are you on? 1080p?
What is your overall budget and how much have you spent so far?
Would you prefer new or are you willing to look secondhand?
What is the make and model of your case, so we can judge GPU length.

Other questions:
Are you looking to overclock?
 
Got a very similar rig pal

I have the DS3P and clocked my 6 core to 4.2ghz without any problem.

Something along the lines of a r9 280 is great for 1080p gaming

8GB ram will be fine, take a look at Avexir... cannot fault the ram I have from them
 
Doomedspeed said:
You seem to be in the right place now..

It makes sense to me, id just like to know a little more.

1) Memory wise, for gaming, 8GB of RAM is more than sufficient. Teamgroup & Kingston are very good value brands, very good indeed.

2) This is where i need to know a little more.
What resolution are you on? 1080p?
What is your overall budget and how much have you spent so far?
Would you prefer new or are you willing to look secondhand?
What is the make and model of your case, so we can judge GPU length.

Other questions:
Are you looking to overclock?
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Well I'm a bit happier about the 8gb instead of 16 due to price I was told to go for 16gb by a friend but he runs a lot more programs then me (hardcore gamer)

I just want the build for casual gaming and I'm not sure what resolution yet but I have been looking at a 22" 720p monitor so far I have spent £169.69 that was

Case, motherboard and processor as for my budget I haven't really set one but I was thinking towards £400-500 I am aware this might not be enough for the rig I am wanting to build but I can spend a bit more and the case is:

** No competitors **

CIT vantage gamers case midi ATX

And I am completely new to overclocking so I doubt I will be at this moment

Another question am I okay to use the heatsink and fan that comes with the fx6300 or should I get a different one?


Thank you for the help
 
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CinderzFTW said:
Got a very similar rig pal

I have the DS3P and clocked my 6 core to 4.2ghz without any problem.

Something along the lines of a r9 280 is great for 1080p gaming

8GB ram will be fine, take a look at Avexir... cannot fault the ram I have from them
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If I am looking at 720p are there any cards that are still good that are a bit cheaper?

I get confused because I look at some cards for instance the gtx 750ti is p.c.i e 3.0 where my mobo is 2.0 and other cards that are PCI e 2.0 seem too cheap £40-£50?

I know that 3.0 can still be used but if my mobo is 2.0 is it worth paying for a 3.0?
 
Hi, can i ask what games you will be playing?

I ask cause a £40-£50 gpu might not be able to run the games that you want it to run, even a second hand one might be a disappointment or not quite what you expected.

The sorts of games you will be playing will help the people here suggest the best/correct parts for you so that you will not be disappointed at the end result (we hope!).

OcUK does have **B Grade** cards that are cheaper than new but are still about £80'ish.

Link to the page http://www.overclockers.co.uk/searc...rance+graphics+cards&cat=683&rows=0&view=list

Is your total budget still around the £400-£500 mark?

Will you be spending that all in one go or slowly over time?
 
Little*Freak said:
Hi, can i ask what games you will be playing?

I ask cause a £40-£50 gpu might not be able to run the games that you want it to run, even a second hand one might be a disappointment or not quite what you expected.

The sorts of games you will be playing will help the people here suggest the best/correct parts for you so that you will not be disappointed at the end result (we hope!).

OcUK does have **B Grade** cards that are cheaper than new but are still about £80'ish.

Link to the page http://www.overclockers.co.uk/searc...rance+graphics+cards&cat=683&rows=0&view=list


Is your total budget still around the £400-£500 mark?

Will you be spending that all in one go or slowly over time?
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Well the games I want to play range in graphics basically so I'll go with ones I think will require a lot of power

The elder scrolls series
The elder scrolls online also
DayZ and state of decay
But also some new games
But not exactly looking for the best graphics I can
I will settle for normal/high settings

I am willing to pay £100 pounds for a good graphics card though

And that's just a rough price range
It's not all one hit I'm buying a couple parts a week

Thanks for the reply
 
Lo again, i am kind of in the same situation. Slowly buying the bits that i am lusting after.

Those 7950's and 7970's are older versions of the R9 280 and R9 280X. Although they only have 90 days warranty from OcUk it's a damm good price for those sorts of cards.

For £80-£110 i can't think of a better card here as long as you are ok with a 3 month warranty. For instance the best/cheapest new card close to your budget is the Powercolor R9 270 for £110 and that card is a step down from the B Grade cards.

If you do buy one get a good brand of PSU, i would suggest at least a 550W high quality unit (or maybe more if you buy the 7970).

Generally, people here swear by the B Grade graphics cards. I am a bit surprised that they are still here to be honest.

Some won't touch the B Grade Hard drives or SSD's though, a few of the senior level posters will smack your knuckles for even thinking of it :p

I steer clear of them for that reason.
 
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Bugga, just thought about your Case!

Can you measure the distance inside from the back to the HDD cage's?

I looked at the info on it but it does not say how big a card it will take.
 
Little*Freak said:
Bugga, just thought about your Case!

Can you measure the distance inside from the back to the HDD cage's?

I looked at the info on it but it does not say how big a card it will take.
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Well I'll look in to one of those cards then like I said I'm not going by a specific budget just taking my time and buying what I need but obviously making sure it's right and will do the job I want it to so as for prices if you think I'm am best stretching a little further I am willing to

And as for the case I could measure it but it's all packed away
But I know it roughly as I have placed the mother board slightly in to test it and the board fits nice and comfortably i'd say from back to the hd cage about 25cm length roughly but if you need to know exact measurements I can get them
 
Sorry for the multiple msgs but i just thought of something else.

If, if you buy a Power supply unit from somewhere else may i suggest that you run the Brand and Model number by the people here before you actually buy it?

There are loads of brands and most will go pop, or worse when you put a heavy load on them.

I would really urge you to buy an Antec, an EVGA or better still a Superflower of the right wattage. Having a small fire in your PC is not a fun experience (not kidding at all, check out the PSU forum sometime).
 
DO0MPY P0OMP said:
Well I'll look in to one of those cards then like I said I'm not going by a specific budget just taking my time and buying what I need but obviously making sure it's right and will do the job I want it to so as for prices if you think I'm am best stretching a little further I am willing to

And as for the case I could measure it but it's all packed away
But I know it roughly as I have placed the mother board slightly in to test it and the board fits nice and comfortably i'd say from back to the hd cage about 25cm length roughly but if you need to know exact measurements I can get them
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Oh and another question

When my processor arrives and ram am I okay to install anything or am I best waiting until everything arrives and completely build it? Maybe a silly question but I am very impatient and can't wait to put something together lol
 
Looking at the tech specs of the games that you will be playing both of the B Grade cards i suggested will run them very well, both will also run newer games well also.

Have you already bought that 22" 1280 x 720 monitor?
 
Little*Freak said:
Sorry for the multiple msgs but i just thought of something else.

If, if you buy a Power supply unit from somewhere else may i suggest that you run the Brand and Model number by the people here before you actually buy it?

There are loads of brands and most will go pop, or worse when you put a heavy load on them.

I would really urge you to buy an Antec, an EVGA or better still a Superflower of the right wattage. Having a small fire in your PC is not a fun experience (not kidding at all, check out the PSU forum sometime).
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Well with power supply I was going to order last after I have decided and ordered everything I need and then find out the best one I need

And I just measured back from graphics card bay to HDD bay it's 27.5cm and depth is 17.5cm
 
Some people say they are not bad at all. Some of the reviews (from people who bought one), have been surprisingly good.

Other people, STULID for instance (a very knowledgeable chap and master spec'er here), says don't waste your money and you need a smack.

I think, considering the games you want to play, you would be better off with either a B Grade 7950 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BG-346-MS For £80 which will knock the socks off of a 750Ti. It has nearly 3 times the grunt power of the 750Ti.

The 750Ti has 640 Processing Cores and the 7950 has Processing Cores: 1792.

If you do not want to buy a B Grade but want brand new, i would recommend the Sapphire R9 280 for £150 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-347-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1842.

If you want Nvidia, then i'd go with one of the brand new GTX 960's.
For the games you want to play and for newer games, it'll be way better than the 750Ti.
Yes, it is £62 more expensive but in the end, you generally get what you pay for.

Have to admit that i am not sure how it would stack up to an R9 280.
 
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