Help Please Start Stop Continuosly on two builds for xmas

kaiserc

kaiserc

kaiserc

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Hello, I need some help with two builds with slightly similar issues Start/Stop Continuously :(


Build 1
Case PC-Q03A itx
Asus P8H61-I Rev 3 (Second Hand)
4gb DDR3 1333
Pentium G840 (Second Hand)
Stock Intel Cooler
60Gb OCZ Agility Sata III
SilversTone PSU 500w
Slimline DVD

Summary
When I power this up all that happens is that the CPU Fan on the cooler Spins for about 5 seconds and then stops, It then then does this repeatedly. The PSU fan turns continuously and doesn't stop

I checked the ram to make sure the ram was compatible and works - and it is compatible and works.
I checked the how the mounts are aligned to the motherboard - correctly
I removed all the DVD & the other drives away from the system - same thing happens
I rebuilt the system from scratch outside of the case - again the same thing happens.
Reset the board with the power off - same thing happens
took out the CMOS Battery, reset the board, put the battery back in whilst the power was off - same thing happens

I have a brand new MSI Z77-G45MA Motherboard so I thought I would try the CPU and cooler with it. The result being that the CPU fan spins continuously and looks to work Correctly.

so now I am definitely thinking that the Motherboard is duff
- Am I right ?
- Can i fix this?

Build Two
Case Fractal Design 1000
i5 3570K
MSI Z77-G45MA
Stock Cooler
8 GB DDR3 1600 Hyper Greys
64GB Crucial M4 SSD (OS)
320 SATA II HDD
OCT ZT 550w Modular PSU
MSI HD 6870 OC
DVD

Summary
I have bought a new motherboard and a new processor to update the Machine you can see in my signature i.e. Moving from AMD -> Intel

Before Changing over the motherboard and CPU I did not Format my (SSD OS Drive) as I could do this in the bios.

I assembled this build after trying to assemble my first build (Does this have any bearing on the motherboard i.e. I tried my pentium G840 in it before my ivy bridge i5).

I turned on this PC and the PSU continuously turns, but the Cpu fan seems to spin for a bout 10-12 secs and then stops and then repeats. I can see the light come on my DVD, my SSD and my system fans turn (but they stop when the CPU fans stops)

I also tried a using a new SSD but still no progress


I tried similar process of elimination, as in the previous build, to identify the weakest link
Its definitely not my PSU Or RAM
and I don't think its My CPU or Motherboard ?

I realise that this is a lot of detail but I have two machines to build for Xmas and I have never had this kind of issue in 5 previous builds?

Also i have no working computer at home at the moment so I'm actually think of going back to my original build.

Any Help appreciated
 
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game-junkie - in which build do you think the processor is dead.
I don't think any of the processors that i have are dead . Tested the G840 on two motherboards and the CPU worked on the the new motherboard. My Second CPU i5 3750K is brand new and it seems like its getting ner to posting.

Any other Ideas?
 
kaiserc said:
game-junkie - in which build do you think the processor is dead.
I don't think any of the processors that i have are dead . Tested the G840 on two motherboards and the CPU worked on the the new motherboard. My Second CPU i5 3750K is brand new and it seems like its getting ner to posting.

Any other Ideas?
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Ignore game-junkie, the idea of your CPU being DOA is extremely unlikely.

Let's concentrate on your i5 build for now (As it's more likely you want this working first?)

First thing I'd do is try booting with bare minimum, unplug everything you don't need - So 1 stick of RAM, GPU (If you don't have onboard - otherwise remove it) and no SSD's or HDD's plugged in.

Assuming you have no luck running the bare minimum, I'd suggest making sure the CPU is seated correctly. The CPU cooler should not be too tight or too loose.

Another thought would be to make sure your BIOS version is up to date, the G840 should be fine whatever board you use but the i5 Ivybridge might not work with outdated BIOS versions.
 
Thanks BuToNz & LOAM
Thanks Guys for your input

I will follow your Guidance tonight

Question
1) Do you know where I can find the beep codes For Asus & MSI or are they usually generic for all motherboards. Probably I'm going to need this if need to diagnose the problem.

2) For My i5 Build the motherboard is brand new so as i mentioned previously said that will be using probably the latest version. My first build's motherboard is second hand and I have asked the previous owner what he bios version is and he didn't know?
My Question how can is find out the version of the bios if can't get passed post. There probably isn't any other way apart from getting past post. If I found that these board were using older bios version how can i update them?

Cheers for now
 
Usually generic, but I'd doubt they'll be of much use really. Just keep trying different things until you get life. The i5 build does sound like it's working but it's just stuck in a boot loop, are you sure you have your monitor connected properly? - Which output are you using?

Regarding the BIOS update, I can safely say this isn't the issue with the 1st build. But should it be the problem with the second board I should think you would need to use the G840 to flash it. We'll come to that pending what you get done tonight.
 
Hi
I'm using VGA output to the monitor.

I take it if i am still having issues with the i5 build I would use the G840 with the motherboard and update he latest version of the bios then switch back to the i5?
 
Hello Guys (BuToNz & LOAM )

Just a note to say I have both machines now running

The Issue with the First build was the motherboard's cpu seat some of the pins were bent - well two of them where bent in a different direction. Adjust these very carefully and Viola machine boots and is now complete

The Issue with the second build - I still can't work out except maybe too much thermal paste - but its now working after I strip it down and started again.

I'm pretty Impressed with my both builds and the intel chips the i5 3570k kicks ass and the G840 is pretty quick seems faster than my old Athlon II x4 620. Mind you most build will be fast with an SSD.

Thanks for Help ;)
 
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