HEPA Air purifier/Fan

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Hi all,

With the onset of hayfever coming, and the prospect of being stuck inside a lot - I've been toying with the idea of getting one of the above for my bedroom.

I suffer quite badly with hayfever, and in previous years I've just kept windows closed at night which seems to have kept it at bay. However now having moved house, and due to an external wall not having a cavity the landlord had a large vent drilled in the wall to stop (it hasn't fully!) condensation and mould building up.

First of all, do these HEPA purifiers work, and secondly is someone able to recommend one that isn't abhorrently expensive... if it doubles as a fan/cools the room then even better!

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i bought this one on aliexpress few years back https://www.review-hub.co.uk/xiaomi-air-purifier-pro-purifier-2s-review/ works perfectly and the filters are around £25 on ebay and you only need to change them every 4 to 6 months. i go for the purple antibacterial ones. Doesnt cool the room though but does bring the particles down to 1 silently all day and night. My mrs has really bad asthma and is housebound and it helps significantly so check around think a newer model is out now.
 
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I have been running a Vicks V-9071 ~£50 for many years, still runs like new. Filters about £12 from amazon, last 6 months.
3 speed settings and is not silent even on lowest but it's a nice gentle fan noise that I can't sleep without now.
 
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They definately work, but I would recommend dropping your requirement of it having to be cheap and spend money on a quality one. This site do a brilliant range of them with some really good write ups of what the various specs mean https://www.breathingspace.co.uk/

I'd recommend pretty much anything by either Winix or Blueair as they simply make some of the best models going. You want to pay attention to the "CADR" (clean air delivery rate) and ideally try and find the individual figures for how they compair with dust, pollen and smoke. I myself went for a Winix U300 about 2.5 years ago (primarially because it's pollen rating is slightly higher than it's dust / smoke and I have the same problem as you with pollen being the main thing I was after due to hayfever) and it's been a brillaint purchase. I use it in my bedroom 24/7 and have found that because it effectively keeps that room peremenantly clean I now sleep through the night without issue where as hayfever used to keep me up at night. Id even say it's improved my symptoms during the day and I find I dont have to rely on anti-histimines / nasal sprays as much as I did simply because I'm getting a better nights sleep with no pollen affecting me overnight.

With my model it has both an air quality sensor and a light sensor. At its high settings there's no question it's loud and you can easily hear it from another room. It's low settings is also easily audible. However, combined with the light sensor it has a "night" mode where even with it right next to my bed I can easily sleep with it on all night without issue and it's essentially silent. The only thing I do find on mine is that the electrical "plasma wave" feature that helps to clean air using electircal dischage along with the filter can make a slight electrical hum. It doesn't bother me but my other half can hear it and we sometimes have to turn just this feautre off overnight (though the actual fan / filter never causes an issue and you can turn the plasmawave feature off seperately on mine). The only other downside is that the lights on the control panel are quite bright, and although they dim at night again the plasma wave feature has an animated light feature on mine and this is distracting. It's easily solved with a small piece of tape just over those lights though.

The filters on these also tend to be washable, and whilst I don't get the advertised 12 months out of mine with 24/7 use I would say I get 10-11 months out of a filter. I hoover the pre-filter once every 4-8 weeks and then give the entire thing a wash in the bath at about the 5 month mark, I generally find by the time I'd be considering washing it a second time is when the new filter light comes on.

They dont make my U300 any more from the looks of it but if I were spending my money again now I'd be very tempted by this one;

https://www.breathingspace.co.uk/ai...air-purifier-with-free-spare-filter-pack-p259

Whilst it is expensive if it's anything like mine you should get a good 20ish month of use out of it given it comes with a second filter pack, and if it had even half the benfit my older model does I can't recommend it enough.
 
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If your budget can stretch then I would definitely recommend the Dyson Pure Cool.

Expensive, but very good at what it does. Plus it includes HEPA filters :D
 
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If your budget can stretch then I would definitely recommend the Dyson Pure Cool.

Expensive, but very good at what it does. Plus it includes HEPA filters :D

Bit of a necro bump but how do you find this fan? Thinking of grabbing a Dyson TP04 before the warmer weather starts as hayfever often does a brilliant number on me each year.
 
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Bit of a necro bump but how do you find this fan? Thinking of grabbing a Dyson TP04 before the warmer weather starts as hayfever often does a brilliant number on me each year.

Overpriced tat.

You could buy a blue air purifier and a normal fan for 1/3rd of the price and it would do a much better job of purifying and cooling.

Or get a Phillips purifier.

I own a Dyson fan,a bluair and Phillips purifiers and the dyson is only used now for heat. It's overpriced crap. How people buy it I'll never know same goes for their vacuums.

All just marketing guff and pr. Sold off its history. £600 for a hairdryer says it all. Anyone who buys that deserves to be robbed.
 
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Overpriced tat.

You could buy a blue air purifier and a normal fan for 1/3rd of the price and it would do a much better job of purifying and cooling.

Or get a Phillips purifier.

I own a Dyson fan,a bluair and Phillips purifiers and the dyson is only used now for heat. It's overpriced crap. How people buy it I'll never know same goes for their vacuums.

All just marketing guff and pr. Sold off its history. £600 for a hairdryer says it all. Anyone who buys that deserves to be robbed.

opposite for me. I've been so impressed with our V11 that I'm happy to pay the £500 for the cost of the TP04 if it helps with our hayfever it'll be worth it's weight in gold.

did look at the bluefin ones but noticed a few people complained about smell and said it just blasts the air upwards rather than diffuse it.

Plus the fan just looks nicer - and that does matter

edit: Still - thanks for the recommendations either way :)
 
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opposite for me. I've been so impressed with our V11 that I'm happy to pay the £500 for the cost of the TP04 if it helps with our hayfever it'll be worth it's weight in gold.

did look at the bluefin ones but noticed a few people complained about smell and said it just blasts the air upwards rather than diffuse it.

Plus the fan just looks nicer - and that does matter

edit: Still - thanks for the recommendations either way :)

All air purifiers apart from side on one's blast upwards. They suck from all directions 360 and then blast upwards.

Sucking in air from every direction means nothing gets missed. Blowing upwards means it circulates air around the room. It's an effective way of getting all the air moving.

The power of the bluair is also 10 times that of the Dyson. I've got the large model which is circa £350. The size of the filter in it is 20 times the size of the filter in the Dyson. It's a proper purifier in that sense.

The Phillips one I have is much smaller only does 20m squared Vs the 50m squared but both can clean that area 12 times in an hour. So every 6 minutes.

I'd hate to see what dysons filters cost on top of the ridiculous purchase price.

If I could get decent money for mine I'd sell it. I bought it using vouchers I was given from work so luckily at a discount.

Remember filters last 6 months at best. The bluair also filters out more than the Dyson and the Phillips. It can get much more and much smaller particles. Because it's a specialised machine made by a specialist company.

Dyson failed in the washing machine and tumble dryer market and massively. I have no idea how their hairdryers sell other than it's a purchase restricted mainly to women whereas guys would have had a say in the washing machine.

I own all 3 and if I had to get another I'd likely go for bluair or winix is it. Phillips is good too it has a sensor and auto mode. Both very important.
 
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All air purifiers apart from side on one's blast upwards. They suck from all directions 360 and then blast upwards.

Sucking in air from every direction means nothing gets missed. Blowing upwards means it circulates air around the room. It's an effective way of getting all the air moving.

The power of the bluair is also 10 times that of the Dyson. I've got the large model which is circa £350. The size of the filter in it is 20 times the size of the filter in the Dyson. It's a proper purifier in that sense.

The Phillips one I have is much smaller only does 20m squared Vs the 50m squared but both can clean that area 12 times in an hour. So every 6 minutes.

I'd hate to see what dysons filters cost on top of the ridiculous purchase price.

If I could get decent money for mine I'd sell it. I bought it using vouchers I was given from work so luckily at a discount.

Remember filters last 6 months at best. The bluair also filters out more than the Dyson and the Phillips. It can get much more and much smaller particles. Because it's a specialised machine made by a specialist company.

Dyson failed in the washing machine and tumble dryer market and massively. I have no idea how their hairdryers sell other than it's a purchase restricted mainly to women whereas guys would have had a say in the washing machine.

I own all 3 and if I had to get another I'd likely go for bluair or winix is it. Phillips is good too it has a sensor and auto mode. Both very important.

Glad you like your one! I just have my heart set on the Dyson fan. I like the vacuum, i figure I'll like the purfier/fan.

You can't beat what the heart wants
 
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I’m cooped up in a room all the time due to my health condition, and I also have breathing problems at night and the room can get quite dusty through lots of equipment. would I benefit from something like one of the Philips purifiers? Was looking at the 2000i model.
 
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I’m cooped up in a room all the time due to my health condition, and I also have breathing problems at night and the room can get quite dusty through lots of equipment. would I benefit from something like one of the Philips purifiers? Was looking at the 2000i model.

It's hard to say.

Humidity could be an issue too much or too less.

It will filter out dust, smoke and mould. The Phillips is good for the money. Bluair also do a small model but without a sensor. In that regard I like the Phillips better.

It's hard to say but it's worked wonders for us in terms of cleaning up cooking smoke and smells and all the pollen from flowers, etc.

The air just feels fresher.
 
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Rob my mrs has real bad breathing problems and Asthma as well we use Mi purifyers around the house with the antibacterial filters and have done for a few years now. The pm count is almost always under 2 now and she notices the difference. It's worth trying one or a Philips or bluair and if you buy from Amazon the 30days you have to return is more than enough to know if its helping :)
 
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It's hard to say.

Humidity could be an issue too much or too less.

It will filter out dust, smoke and mould. The Phillips is good for the money. Bluair also do a small model but without a sensor. In that regard I like the Phillips better.

It's hard to say but it's worked wonders for us in terms of cleaning up cooking smoke and smells and all the pollen from flowers, etc.

The air just feels fresher.

Rob my mrs has real bad breathing problems and Asthma as well we use Mi purifyers around the house with the antibacterial filters and have done for a few years now. The pm count is almost always under 2 now and she notices the difference. It's worth trying one or a Philips or bluair and if you buy from Amazon the 30days you have to return is more than enough to know if its helping :)

Cheers guys, I’ve ordered the 2000i

It’s not just for breathing. I also suffer from hay fever and sinus problems. These apparently help with that too.
 
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Cheers guys, I’ve ordered the 2000i

It’s not just for breathing. I also suffer from hay fever and sinus problems. These apparently help with that too.

I have that model for the bedroom only. The larger blu air one does all of downstairs but mainly for the kitchen, dining and living room.

The bluair has a better filter but the Phillips has an auto mode I really like. I wish I could combine the two.

The sensor at the back will make the colour change on top to let you know how bad the air is.

If I spray deodorant even in the next bedroom it picks it up within a few seconds it's crazy how fast particles travel especially aerosols. Then I will hear it ramp up automatically to deal with it.

In that regard I really like the Phillips I might get their larger models in future or a sensor version of a winix or bluair.

If I had to pick a starter it would be the Phillips it's a solid choice. If you feel you need more then you can upgrade in a few years to one with better filtering and try and retain its smart features.
 
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I have that model for the bedroom only. The larger blu air one does all of downstairs but mainly for the kitchen, dining and living room.

The bluair has a better filter but the Phillips has an auto mode I really like. I wish I could combine the two.

The sensor at the back will make the colour change on top to let you know how bad the air is.

If I spray deodorant even in the next bedroom it picks it up within a few seconds it's crazy how fast particles travel especially aerosols. Then I will hear it ramp up automatically to deal with it.

In that regard I really like the Phillips I might get their larger models in future or a sensor version of a winix or bluair.

If I had to pick a starter it would be the Phillips it's a solid choice. If you feel you need more then you can upgrade in a few years to one with better filtering and try and retain its smart features.
It is just for my 13x11ft bedroom, which I spend 90% of my time in.
 
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I have that model for the bedroom only. The larger blu air one does all of downstairs but mainly for the kitchen, dining and living room.

The bluair has a better filter but the Phillips has an auto mode I really like. I wish I could combine the two.

The sensor at the back will make the colour change on top to let you know how bad the air is.

If I spray deodorant even in the next bedroom it picks it up within a few seconds it's crazy how fast particles travel especially aerosols. Then I will hear it ramp up automatically to deal with it.

In that regard I really like the Phillips I might get their larger models in future or a sensor version of a winix or bluair.

If I had to pick a starter it would be the Phillips it's a solid choice. If you feel you need more then you can upgrade in a few years to one with better filtering and try and retain its smart features.
Got mine setup yesterday. Your right about the sensitivity, it fired up within 10 seconds of my dog coming into my room.
Honestly, I even farted near it and it picked it up :D
 
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