Here we go again!! Another knife attack.

Zatoichi.uK · 1 Jan 2019 at 07:56

Meh just the usual nothing to see here.

Pales compared to the Moroccan incident. I'm still a bit numb from that one.

Roar87 · 1 Jan 2019 at 08:19

This is a terrorist attack and our national news agency is refusing to call it one.

Energize · 1 Jan 2019 at 08:33

Roar87 said:
This is a terrorist attack and our national news agency is refusing to call it one.

The daily mail?

Omaeka · 1 Jan 2019 at 08:40

Terrorist? I thought they didn't care now that we've left them alone?

LabR@t · 1 Jan 2019 at 08:43

maschio said:
The deterent needs to increase..

Caught carrying knife with no legal or arguable reason in public place = 2 years
Wield knife with intent but no injury = 5 years
Penetrating injury = 10 years
Death from stabbing = Life

I remember Tony Blair saying "tough on crime.. tough on the causes of crime" many years ago but that hasn't deterred much

Because like most of the crap he said he came out with he didn't mean it

Admiral Huddy · 1 Jan 2019 at 08:47

Brizzles said:
How many have happened on the busiest ( most drunken ) night of the year in the UK .
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I do recall this being quite common occurrence during the 70s and 80s to the point that in the end most of Trafalgar square was cornered off on NYE.. which then encouraged rebels and even more trouble.

So the question is, is it really more now days? or is it media making it more apparent?

Roar87 · 1 Jan 2019 at 08:51

Brizzles said:
Another implies more than one.

How many have happened on the busiest ( most drunken ) night of the year in the UK .

You'll be busy listing every assault that happens tonight.

A man with a 1 foot long knife shouting "Allah" and stabbing 3 people, are you serious? He wasn't drunk, it wasn't an assault, he attempted to hack to death multiple random people at a train station

Johno please? · 1 Jan 2019 at 10:56

Ending 2018 as they mean to start 2019 I guess, we got a stabbing the Philippines got another bombing.

NoobCannon · 1 Jan 2019 at 11:01

Look like the rop at it again.

As said above nothing to see here

LabR@t · 1 Jan 2019 at 11:32

Move along , nothing to see here, just part of living in a city.

VincentHanna · 1 Jan 2019 at 11:34

LabR@t said:
Move along , nothing to see here, just part of living in a city.

Which, (again) nobody ever said...

ivrytwr3 · 1 Jan 2019 at 11:39

Interesting that some people are playing this down; this was a terrorist attack.

Anyone guilty of terrorist activities should be locked up and once the sentence served be stripped of any UK nationality.

The 'peaceful' religion strikes again.

VincentHanna · 1 Jan 2019 at 11:41

Roar87 said:
This is a terrorist attack and our national news agency is refusing to call it one.

We have a national news agency?

Tony Edwards · 1 Jan 2019 at 11:51

maschio said:
The deterent needs to increase..

Caught carrying knife with no legal or arguable reason in public place = 2 years
Wield knife with intent but no injury = 5 years
Penetrating injury = 10 years
Death from stabbing = Life

I remember Tony Blair saying "tough on crime.. tough on the causes of crime" many years ago but that hasn't deterred much

That was many years ago and crime did start to decrease. Say what you want about Blair's New Labour but they did increase budgets and personnel.

LabR@t said:
Because like most of the crap he said he came out with he didn't mean it

Unfortunately the Tories came to power and slashed the budgets for the police and the prison services so really they are to blame for the last 8 years. although I doubt you have much good to say about them either.

VincentHanna said:
We have a national news agency?

Energize said:
The daily mail?

Roar87 · 1 Jan 2019 at 12:22

Tony Edwards said:
unfortunately the Tories came to power and slashed the budgets for the police and the prison services so really they are to blame for the last 8 years. although I doubt you have much good to say about them either.

Which area would you like to cut to fund more Policing? Bearing in mind we're still running a budget deficit

Tony Edwards · 1 Jan 2019 at 12:23

Roar87 said:
Which area would you like to cut to fund more Policing? Bearing in mind we're still running a budget deficit

The tax cuts? £1B to the DUP, All the money that is being wasted on brexit. There are many areas.

TheVoice · 1 Jan 2019 at 12:31

Roar87 said:
This is a terrorist attack and our national news agency is refusing to call it one.

Because at that point it hadn't been declared as terrorism-related by the police; now it has.

Roar87 · 1 Jan 2019 at 12:37

TheVoice said:
Because at that point it hadn't been declared as terrorism-related by the police; now it has.

Do we need to wait for the Police to declare things a terrorist attack, is that what journalism is? If someone is stabbing people and a BBC reporter hears him shouting "Allah" and "death to the west", do we need the Police to confirm it's a terrorist attack?

VincentHanna · 1 Jan 2019 at 12:40

Roar87 said:
Do we need to wait for the Police to declare things a terrorist attack, is that what journalism is? If someone is stabbing people and a BBC reporter hears him shouting "Allah" and "death to the west", do we need the Police to confirm it's a terrorist attack?

Yes.

It wasn't a reporter, it was a BBC 5 live producer. They aren't journalists.

Roar87 · 1 Jan 2019 at 12:41

VincentHanna said:
Yes.

Journalism isn't reporting things that the government states, that might be what you think it should be, the attack was clearly a terrorist attack and did not need declaring so by the Police.

BBC 5 live producer Sam Clack, who had been at the station at the time, said he saw a man stabbed on a tram platform at the station "feet from me".

Mr Clack also said he heard the knifeman shouting "Allah" during the attack, along with a slogan criticising Western governments.