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High end gpu's way overpriced

Soldato
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any1 else agree with me? just been looking at gpu prices, like the 580/590.

590 is nvidia's latest dual GPU and is priced at a wopping £700 +.

ive got a nvidia 295 which on release was around the 450 mark. teh same price for a good 580.

can someone explain why gpu's cost so much nowa days??
 
Because people buy them in quantities to make a worth while profit for a multi billion $ company....

Supply and demand.....
 
Because there are apparently enough people willing to shell out that kind of money to make them profitable. And if you think that's expensive check out the professional solutions, a Quadro will set you back thousands. Myself, I don't plan on ever spending over 200 in a GPU, upgrading every few years gives me better performance than spending 700 on a noisy, power-hungry behemoth.
 
They always have been, thats why I buy 1-2 behind the bleeding edge - usually half the money for only 10-15% drop in performance.
 
From what i have been ready high end gpu's are only going to get more expensive as onboard and on cpu graphics are eating up the low/mid sales gpu manufacturers rely on to make their margins.
 
As mentioned, pick up a high end of mid range or above for good performance without breaking the bank, unless of course you get lucky like I did with a particularly good special offer that happens to come along at the right time.
 
I paid £550 for my HD5970 at the time. To me that represented good value, especially as I've got two years out of it already. But having a look at what's on offer now I'm just not particularly excited about it. For instance, the HD6990 is £600 but it's already been out for quite a while now; and nVidia's offerings are even more expensive.

You also need games to really push graphics cards as well. Games like RAGE, Deus Ex: Human Revolution and The Witcher 2 weren't demanding and based upon the specs it looks like Skyrim won't be either. It gets harder to justify a top-end card when most games are developed around consoles. It will be much more interesting to see the graphics market in 2013-2014, when the next consoles are released.
 
I thought The Witcher 2 was a demanding game to run, or is it only when applying ubersampling; which I hear does virtually nothing but suck up resources?
 
As mentioned, pick up a high end of mid range or above for good performance without breaking the bank, unless of course you get lucky like I did with a particularly good special offer that happens to come along at the right time.

This is the best option.

However, I'm OCD with my comp so its easier said than done.

I want the bet so I can say that I have it. :/
 
the reason is less people play pc games and less pc games are developed. shrinking market. law of diminishing returns applies. its never value for money to get the top card.
 
They are very expensive and no, they won't continue to increase in price because the low end is a dissappearing market.

Why, people buy new gpu's every year, or every two years because at some point the price vs performance increase makes you buy a card. That point is different for everyone, for some people, they'll get a £200 not quite top card every year to always have great performance, some people buy a £400 card every 3 years, and others by a £100 card every 2 years.

All that happens is, if the 6950 for instance was £300, they'd make more money on every 6950 sale, but they would sell hugely less cards and overall make less profit.

THe guys who only sell gpu's, are going to or are already diversifying. Sapphire have started selling more AMD mobo's and are selling Intel mobo's, so their plan is for every low end card sale they miss out on in the next few years, they'll sell a mobo to go with the IGP in the cpu instead.

A huge number of GPU makers have FAR wider ranging business to start with, MSI, Gigabyte, Asus.

You can't just increase the prices of products indefinately to make up for lost sales, because you simply end up with less sales and losing money. Can see a few more AIB's folding, and several more scaling back on staff and dropping the low end entirely.

Though low end is going to get very small, it won't dissappear, plenty of people, especially businesses need more outputs than IGP's will ever offer, or newer features, there seems set to be higher end cpu's for a while that won't have IGP's anyway because ultimately an IGP takes up die space that could otherwise go on extra cores and more power and loads of users want/need 2 more cores rather than saving £30 on a low end gpu.

THe current gen has been badly priced, partially I would guess to put people off buying them to a degree. I mean, 590gtx's do die WAY more often than any other card, they ARE power hungry and run hot as crap, so do 6990's(though they don't die because they didn't cheap out on the VRM's). But ultimately cards that run that hot with that much power on a small heatsink with no airflow, RMA rates will be high. AMD/Nvidia want a dual gpu card "out" to "win" the generation, but maybe don't want high volume sales and high return rates. So how do you deal with that, price it to the point where its just not good value, put people off buying it and then AMD/Nvidia don't have to waste a lot of money on replacement cards and bad PR.

The 4870x2 for instance ran great, was warm but not bad, and no where near the crazy power usage of a 590/6990, it ultimately gave a 280gtx a spanking, a royal spanking, and it was cheaper than 2 4870's separately.

5850/5870, 6970/6950, 570, 6870 are all well priced cards, we've always had some terrible value upper tier cards.
 
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