High mileage used cars

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Bit of a "how long is a piece of string" question really.

But a few people recommended I'd be better off buying a 4 year old car with big miles (100k+) as it's likely to have done Motorway miles = less stress on the engine, box, pads etc and likely to be an ex lease car = full service history etc rather than your 2004/05 cars with average/lower miles

I'm a bit dubious to depart close to 4k on a mondeo/like-for-like car with 120k on the clock, (ideally keep it for about 18 months) put 25k of my own miles per year on it - I understand it will have no value by the time im done with it but the main question im really asking is will a car thats done the above sort of mileage be a reliable runner or am i buying myself a heep of trouble!?
 
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Ooops yes you are missing something (me being stupid!) i'd be keeping it for 18 months*

(Need my morning Coffee!)
 
On a rep type care that was a company motor I wouldn't hesitate to buy a high mileage motor. As you said probably motorway miles etc...

The main bonus with company motors is they are usually one owner (unless you get a pool car) and they will have been serviced on the dot at a main dealer as they are usually the terms of a lease. There us a stigma to high mileage motors and sale prices will obviously be lower but engines etc... Don't miraculously stop working at 100k you will easily get 200k out of a well serviced diesel, although I would expect a new turbo/injectors would be required at some point.
 
Thanks guys. Some very useful responses.

The cars I have seen are the 1 rep cars FSH with main dealers.

I do quite a bit of motorway miles so i'd easily be putting on 25k a year in total..
 
you will easily get 200k out of a well serviced diesel

And the rest with a diesel!

My current petrol 528i is over 271k now, its first owner was my fathers business, as already said, it was religiously serviced etc, he then retired and kept the car - and kept it serviced @ BMW until it was about 12 years old, I bought it over a year ago from him at circa 263k miles, I intended to keep it 6 months or so & then chop it in, given how - thus far - its exceeded my expectations by a long way , I currently have no plans to change it.

20 years ago, 100k would have put me off significantly, not so these days.
 
Buying in this way is the way I have in the past preferred to do it, having purchased both high and low mileage cars.

In 2004 I bought a 4 year old Mondeo Ghia X with 1 owner from new and full Ford history. It was in immaculate condition having been looked after well by its single owner. It was top of the range with absolutely loads of kit. It cost me just £2650 because it had 115k on it. Because it had been used for long trips rather than short trips the interior wasn't any more worn than you'd expect of a lower mileage car -after all, he'd got in and out of the car thus wearing the bolster probably the same amount of times per day as the people who drive 3 miles down the road.

It was a brilliant car and I ran it until 2006 with absolutely zero issues at all. It eventually died in 2009 after the tensioner on the cambelt failed, but for this I blame the Ford main dealer who, on being instructed to replace this part in 2004, didnt as they claimed it wasn't required.

My next car, in 2006, was another 4 year old car. This time an immaculate BMW 530i Sport with not a mark on it inside or out. No rattles, no squeeks, nothing. At the time my father had a 530d of the same age which he'd had since 19k miles. Viewing the 530i revealed that despite a staggering 140k miles on a car just 4 years old, it was comparable in condition (Infact better if we include parking dings etc) to the 530d we turned up to view it in. Paid less than £10k at a time when comparable low mileage cars were £15k. It was owned by a lovely chap who was a director at a leading IT firm and lived 140 miles from his office, hence the mileage.

I still have this car today and it remains in fantastic condition inside and out. You cannot tell the mileage. It now shares the drive with another almost identical car - a 530i Sport Touring -with just 61k miles on it. My 530i is the better condition car inside and out. The 530i hasn't been the zero-hassle experience the Mondeo was - stuff has broken, some of it expensive, some if not so, but it's all stuff that tends to go wrong on E39's on account of age not mileage. The few mileage related issues I have had happened far later than you'd expect. The rear nearside wheel bearing for example is good for about 80k before the heat from the exhuast dries them out. Mine didnt go until 150k, reflecting the fact it's really time not miles that wears cars.

Its worth nothing you really need cars under 5 years old to do this. The older they get the less likely the high mileage is to be mostly long trips. A 7 year old car with 140k on it could quite easily have had 140k of completely average stop start driving....

HOWEVER...

Some cars today are so ridiculously complex that no matter what mileage they have on them, you would be mad to run one without a decent warranty. If you are buying something like this then sadly you are stuck with low mileage cars in order to qualify for a decent warranty. Last year I did just this and bought a 25k mile 335i in order that i'd be protected from the numerous issues these cars have. There was not the 'this is a lower miler and that is a high miler' difference you might expect from both cars. Sure, there is a bit of wear on the bolster of my 530i but at the point I bought the 335i it was 9 years old. The 335i had more trim rattles infact. The ONLY benefit I could see of the lower mileage was the fact I had that cast iron warranty.

My opinion is that age and how a car is looked after and driven has a far greater effect on the car than its mileage. But mileage has the biggest effect on a cars value. It is not correct to say 'high mileage good', because there are numerous crap high milers out there. More that you will find many 1 owner big mile cars to be in far greater condition than you'd expect and have far more life than you'd expect.

Cars these days last for pretty much ever, provided you are happy to repair them. Gone are the days when a car reaches the end of its life and is not repairable. Cars are still scrapped when they go wrong but this is because they are worthless not unrepairable. If your £10k car goes wrong and costs £1k, you will fix it. If the same car goes wrong again in 6 years time and is worth £1k at the time, most people will bin it and blame the fact its high mileage when infact its the same fault again you fixed before.. only this time it makes no economic sense.

Oh and don't expect to be able to sell it.
 
Thanks for the input - Just what I was looking for

I understand there will be no resale value of the car after 18 odd months

Looks like it's going to be an ex lease/rep Mondeo 1.8 TDCi EDGE (poverty!) with about 120k on the clock, atleast it will be a comfy place to be on the motorway ;)!

Now the search begins!
 
Thanks for the input - Just what I was looking for

I understand there will be no resale value of the car after 18 odd months

Looks like it's going to be an ex lease/rep Mondeo 1.8 TDCi EDGE (poverty!) with about 120k on the clock, atleast it will be a comfy place to be on the motorway ;)!

Now the search begins!

2008 Ford Mondeo 2.0L TDCi Titanium

Not necessarily, treat yourself to a nicer trim ;)

Car has lost £16k+ in 3 years :eek:
 
I'm just trying to convince a mate not to buy a 2001 X5 4.4 auto with 95k on the clock and he'll be the 8th owner and it's 250 miles away, he seems to think it's a good deal for £5.5k, it really doesn't matter about mileage or age as a blanket statement, it needs to be considered for each and every situation.

When my mate sells his 3 yr old Pixo with 100k on it for pennies, would that be a good buy?
 
4 grand with 150k up it, I think not. :p

Also
Looks like it's going to be an ex lease/rep Mondeo 1.8 TDCi EDGE (poverty!) with about 120k on the clock, atleast it will be a comfy place to be on the motorway ;)!

Now the search begins!

I wouldn't buy one of those in your situation & would buy a car that is well known for taking high mileage. If the pump goes on that Mondy it'll cost you a grand to sort it.
 
4k is not cheap for something with 150k up that is unproven & over complicated.
 
4k is not cheap for something with 150k up that is unproven & over complicated.

Without the age thats a fairly meaningless statement. £4k for a 150k mile 3 year old car is an absolute bargain. £4k for a 150k mile 10 year old is a complete ripoff. Age is fairly important here!

You are absolutely correct to highlight the potential pitfalls of a diesel Mondeo. I totally agree with you on the complexity and hassle of modern turbodiesels. But this isnt a mileage thing, it has little to do with the 150k miles and everything to do with the fact its a modern diesel. They'll happily throw DMF's, turbos, injector and DPF bills at you at half that mileage!
 
That looks suspiciously cheap. The mileage isnt bonkers enough to be the reason alone for its price. I suspect its hiding something.

EDIT: Also to add to the options, the best saloon car I have ever driven:

Errr not driven many then? :p
 
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