Hillsborough Disaster

Azza · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:52

The panel found that 164 statements were "significantly amended", including the removal of 116 negative comments about the leadership of the police, to push the blame for the tragedy onto the fans.

Rotty · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:54

"The panel found that 164 statements were "significantly amended", including the removal of 116 negative comments about the leadership of the police, to push the blame for the tragedy onto the fans" :eek:

tbh though it's something we have all known for many years

Purdy · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:59

Can anyone actually be held accountable for this, i.e. go to prison?

Cosimo · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:00

Mr Cameron confirms that the Attorney General will look urgently at whether to ask the High Court to quash the verdict of the orginal inquest.

4T5 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:02

Wish I had caught this thread from the start so I'll have to go back & do some reading.
Obviously to anybody of age this was a momentous event beyond tragic but I'm caught between wanting to know the truth & feeling sorry for the victims & there familys having to go through it all again.
Now they have found that over 160 statements were "significantly amended" this will go from bad to worse to horrid.

RIP to those Lost.

Purdy · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:04

4T5 said:
Wish I had caught this thread from the start so I'll have to go back & do some reading.
Obviously to anybody of age this was a momentous event beyond tragic but I'm caught between wanting to know the truth & feeling sorry for the victims & there familys having to go through it all again.
Now they have found that over 160 statements were "significantly amended" this will go from bad to worse to horrid.

RIP to those Lost.

Do yourself a favour and ignore the disgusting posts of mehuk in advance.

The report states that some individuals who died at Hillsborough could have had reservable asphyxia. It says it is highly likely what happened after 15:15 BST was "significant in determining how they died".

Rotty · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:07

Purdy said:
Can anyone actually be held accountable for this, i.e. go to prison?

There may be more chance of legal proceedings in relation to altered/falsified documents which is a very serious offense

Purdy · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:10

Just read this

How can the PM say there was no evidence in the report of a government cover up if they have been in sole possession of these documents. Government after government have been concealing the truth.

Which members of the govt. had access to these files? Surely anyone who did is peverting the course of justice?

BaZ87 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:15

David Cameron's statement in full:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...inister-David-Camerons-statement-in-full.html

Newbie007 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:17

31 lives could possibly have been saved, Jesus wept.

RIP the 96.

Azza · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:20

Anyone want to hazard a guess at what tomorrow's Sun front page will look like?

Purdy · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:23

Azza said:
Anyone want to hazard a guess at what tomorrow's Sun front page will look like?

It'll be a shame if there is a Sun tomorrow regardless of what it says. Also wonder what that **** McKenzie will say now when avoiding an apology.

antijoke · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:33

Azza said:
Anyone want to hazard a guess at what tomorrow's Sun front page will look like?

Hopefully they don't say a ******* word about it.

****'s. :mad:

RIP to the 96 who lost their lives.

Pigeon_Killer · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:36

I'm happy the families finally have the truth they've been searching for but the fact 31 lives could've possibly been saved leaves them with a question that will never be answered...

RIP the 96.

BaZ87 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:45

Pigeon_Killer said:
I'm happy the families finally have the truth they've been searching for but the fact 31 lives could've possibly been saved leaves them with a question that will never be answered...

RIP the 96.

Supposedly it's actually as many as 59 lives that could have been saved

And for those that missed it, you can watch Cameron's statement for free here:

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/video/news/12433-cameron-statement

edit: to clarify the 59 lives that could have been saved is simply the amount of lives that could have been saved beyond the 3.15pm cut off time - had the police allowed ambulances onto the pitch.

edit2: as my post below, the confirmed figure of the amount of people that could have been saved is 41.

DiCe! · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:51

Azza said:
Anyone want to hazard a guess at what tomorrow's Sun front page will look like?

"THE ACTUAL TRUTH"

Im not trying to be funny or provocative.

DiCe! · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:53

anticonscience said:
Hopefully they don't say a ******* word about it.

****'s.

RIP to the 96 who lost their lives.

That would be even worse, they MUST do something, surely.

Nate75 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:56

BaZ87 said:
Another excellent read:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/hillsborough-documents-released-brian-reade-1318730

RIP

antijoke · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:56

DiCe! said:
That would be even worse, they MUST do something, surely.

From the Prime Minister:

"Like dealing with children, sorry isn't good enough, unless you know what you screwed up in the first place"

wedgie · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:01

Human beings, we're kind of a bunch of scumbags aren't we

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From The Sun thinking it's ok to print 'that' headline (which I actually didn't know about before coming into this thread), to the people that tried to cover this up, but not just cover it up, also taint the names of people no longer around to defend themselves, some of them children, who cares what extra pain it causes the families hey :/.

Every single person involved in this is beyond forgiveness for me.