Hire car mini-review 11 plate Vauxhall Insignia CDTi

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So someone drove into the side of my Mondeo, and I now have this to drive. Not had it long, and want rid of it ASAP, so only a short review.

I can honestly say that this is the best Vauxhall I have ever driven, with the possible exception of my old Mk2 Astra which beats it on value for money and comfort, but the Insignia beats it on not being a horrible rotting rustbucket.

Interior: Bland black plastic throughout, the BMW brigade will likely hate it, but for the most part it is functional, easily accessible and well laid out. The only exception to this is that if you plug a phone charger into the centre console 12V socket (and this car has the no smoking pack so it's not just a ciggy lighter socket) then you will bash your hand against it every time you change into 5th. This is, however, mitigated by them also putting a 12V socket inside the centre armrest, which is actually a really nice idea. There is another 12V socket on the rear of the centre armrest so your kid can charge up their PSP or whatever.

I was also disappointed by the lack of an aux in socket even though the radio claims to have one. It's supposed to be in the centre console somewhere but I couldn't find it and the owners manual doesn't say where it is. I will admit that I could have just failed to find it in the dark, but it's still annoying. The lack of bluetooth on an 11 plate repmobile is also surprising, but then this does apper to be the poverty spec model.

Driving: The diesel engine is a bit more clattery than the Mondeo, and if you rest your foot on the clutch while idling you can feel a lot of vibration, I wonder if the car has a proper flywheel, not a DMF, in which case this would actually be a point in favour of the Insignia.

It actually accelerates surprisingly well, notably quicker than my 2.0 TDCi Mondeo Econetic. The feel and handling is as you would expect from a motorway barge, pretty much non existent, but that's ok for this type of car.

The electronic handbrake is... odd... I've never driven one before and I am rather uncomfortable with the idea of a software controlled handbrake. It's basically an electric window switch, pull up to put it on, push down to take it off. When taking it off the display nags you that you have to press the brake before I'll let you do that Dave. While this means that I can't sit in a queue on a certain long downhill and just roll down on the handbrake I guess it's a good idea for most people. I suspect it's also really good, in conjunction with an automatic gearbox, for people with certain disabilities. I would personally prefer a proper handbrake however.

Rear visibility: Crap. I particularly like how the rear view mirror is shaped like a D rotated 90 degrees to the right, yet the rear windscreen looks like a D rotated 90 degrees to the left. Get the model with parking sensors or get used to sticking your head out of the drivers door to reverse.

Seats: Better than any Vauxhall I have driven except for my old Mk2 Astra. Gone are the recycled late 80s bus seats in favour of thicker cushions, good side supports, electrically adjustable lumbar support and seat height, and mechanically adjustable slide and backrest.

However today I've just called the lease company and asked them to swap it for something else. Despite the improved seats I'm getting more back/neck/shoulder pain from 40 minutes in the Insignia than I am from the actual accident. I've always had this problem with Vauxhall seats and am well aware that it's pretty much unique to me.

Conclusion: Unless you're the kind of person who insists on a teak dashboard and swan-skin seatbelts, the Insignia is not a bad car at all, and represents a massive improvement for a Vauxhall.

It's also important to note that Vauxhall have gone back to proper latching indicator levers on the Insignia. Gone are the much maligned non-latching ones that they introduced with the Vectra. Hooray!
 
Why what?

Why do I think it might not have a DMF: Just because of the vibration

Why is not having a DMF a good thing: DMFs tend to fail early, sometimes violently, and are much more expensive to replace.
 
Why is not having a DMF a good thing: DMFs tend to fail early, sometimes violently, and are much more expensive to replace.

Yeah, that's what I meant. It's not your car, and if it's under warranty it shouldn't matter. If I was forced to drive a diesel I'd sure as hell want one. Hell it's nice in my petrol car.
 
Pretty much reflects my experience with the Insignia I was given as a courtesy car. My only addition is that the 1.8 petrol variant I was given was both gutless and very thirsty on fuel.
The bit I enjoyed was the digital radio, but I'm easily amused!
 
Yeah, that's what I meant. It's not your car, and if it's under warranty it shouldn't matter. If I was forced to drive a diesel I'd sure as hell want one. Hell it's nice in my petrol car.

I was trying to give a more useful review than just for someone hiring it. I only title these "hire car review" because that's how I get the cars to try and also to excuse the fact that I've not actually done any actual research on the car beforehand (except for googling for variants on "Where is the Aux In on a Vauxhall Insignia") which is why I have no idea if it has a DMF or not.

If it does have a DMF then the vibration is inexcusable, but not actually surprising.

Personally I'd rather not have a DMF but have two extra cylinders instead :)


Kae2: I guess that 1.8 petrol you got was the same 1.8 petrol engine from my Mk5 Astra review. the one that drove like a moderately decent diesel but drank more fuel than my GF's 200SX.



Oh and I forgot to add, according to the onboard computer, the Insignia had done 11,000 miles and was averaging 40mpg and 37mph. For comparison my Mondeo had done 38,000 miles and averages 42mpg and ~45mph. The Mondeo is a company lease car and is therefore not babied in any way, it also spends a lot of it's time going up and down valleys on my daily commute.
 
I hired a CDTi SRI Nav tourer and was stunned at how much I enjoyed it - having vowed never to purchase a Vauxhall again.

The NAV option has bluetooth which was cool - sat on the driveway phoning the house phone and saying "quick, phone me back". :)

Personally I didn't think the engine was that loud or that clattery. I drove from Haverforwest to the Williams Conference Centre (no less) and back with nothing but praise for the engine. It was the 160 version and was quite quick, mapping would make it much better.

Only thing I found odd was that on the "sport" seats where you move the leg supports back and for the metal frame is exposed and a bit sharp.
 
Bluetooth isn't really a good reason to praise a car though. Cost me £200 for a decent bluetooth head unit (one of the Sony tune tray ones, awesome gadget) for my old Nissan :)

As for the engine... this is a hire car remember, so at 11K it's possibly indicative of what the engine in a normal Insignia will be like at 40K. Also I didn't say it was loud, just clattery in comparison to my Mondeo. If anything the Mondeo engine is slightly louder, but it has more of an "agricultural" grumble to it rather than a "someone left a couple ball bearings in the cylinder" clatter.

And yes I am exaggerating with the ball bearing comment, but it's that sort of pitch of sound.
 
Bumping this thread since I've just had another Insignia hire car, this time a 1.8 petrol SRI version.

Oh dear.

Basically the same as the last one only the engine is even more gutless than the diesel and it costs an awful lot more to run. Cost me £22 in petrol to do Cardiff -> Newport -> Cardiff over the course of two days.

The radio has bluetooth, but for calls only, not music. It can't access the android phonebook so dialing is a case of using a rotary knob to move through a menu of numbers and pressing it to select the number you want. The head unit does have actual buttons for 1-6 on the radio and while you might think that pressing one of these would enter that number into the dialler, it actually causes the dialler to exit.

Also, this one despite having only 10k on the clock has some worrying things going on with the gears. When you brake the gearstick moves about 1CM toward the neutral position with a very alarming clunk sound. Sometimes it moves back when you accelerate but not consistently.

Handling and grip levels were still crap, worsened by the coldish temperatures (5-8 degrees) we're currently having.
 
The aux-in is buried in the centre-armrest. Not easy to find, but its definitely there! My colleague had trouble finding it on his car for a while, all sorted now though.

Who did you hire from?
 
Came from enterprise via the lease outfit my company use.

I had a look in all the likely places, even inside the cup holder and storage pocket.

Doesn't matter now though, I've got my Mondeo back. Never thought I'd be so glad to see a Mondeo!
 
Why what?

Why do I think it might not have a DMF: Just because of the vibration

Why is not having a DMF a good thing: DMFs tend to fail early, sometimes violently, and are much more expensive to replace.

It has a DMF, the engine in the Insignia's just particularly agricultural compared to its competitors.

Virtually all cars, including the Insignia, have a DMF these days. Including the petrols.

The petrol ones are less prone to failure, however, due to reduced torque and vibration. They're incredibly prevelant, but some people have yet to clock that. For example, every Mercedes-Benz 190E petrol has had a dual-mass flywheel fitted, and they started building those in 1982. Every E46 petrol, including the 318i, has a dual-mass flywheel too - and so on.
 
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I had one as a hire car (CDTI SE Auto) and once I got used to the size, parking brake and gearbox I actually enjoyed it. Gearbox was perfect for the drive I did, down the M1 and around the M25
 
I had one of these, although it was a petrol (1.8 I think?) for a week whilst my car was being repaired. I absolutely hated it - horrendously built, woefully slow and full of horrible feeling plastic. The driving position felt odd too. Can't imagine why anyone would enjoy driving one.
 
Agree with the review, I had a SE CDTi 160 for a year and I prefered it over the mondeo.

Pivate buy wise, they make good value i think.

In saying that, my SE had a lot of kit that doesnt now seem to be standard on the SE. I got 19's, DAB and 1/2 leather and elec seats as standard, but that doesent seem to be the case now.
 
It has a DMF, the engine in the Insignia's just particularly agricultural compared to its competitors.

That was actually the point I was making about the engine. Bad enough that you could think it didn't have a DMF. Same as that 1.8 petrol engine that is so poor at revving (at least in the Mk5 Astra) that you could think it was a diesel, at least until you see the fuel consumption.

The petrol ones are less prone to failure, however, due to reduced torque and vibration. They're incredibly prevelant, but some people have yet to clock that. For example, every Mercedes-Benz 190E petrol has had a dual-mass flywheel fitted, and they started building those in 1982. Every E46 petrol, including the 318i, has a dual-mass flywheel too - and so on.

That's actually quite funny, that Mercedes managed to make a working one in 1982, but the likes of VW can't manage it today. Fair point about them working better on petrol cars, but I still think I'd put up with a bit of vibration than to have an expensive time bomb sat between my engine and gearbox.
 
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