Home Cinema Setup

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Hopefully someone more clued up on sound setups can help me :)

I recently bought a Denon X2200W to go with my Q Acoustic 2020i's. I've wired everything up but I have to really crank the volume on the amp (50+) to get what I feel is adequate sound volume. Here's the specs of the amp:

Number of Poweramps
7

Power Output (8 ohm, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.05% 2ch Drive)
-

Power Output (6 ohm, 1 kHz, 0.7% 2ch Drive)
125 W

Power Output (6 ohm, 1 kHz, 1% 1ch Drive)
150 W

And the speakers:

Enclosure Type: 2-Way Reflex
Bass Unit: 125m
Treble Unit: 25mm
Frequency Response: 64Hz - 22kHz
Nominal Impedance: 6ohm
Minimum Impedance: 4.0ohm
Sensitivity: 88dB
Crossover Frequency: 2.9kHz
Dimensions H/D/W mm: 265 x 278 x 170
Sold in: Pairs
Weight: 6kg

Am I expecting too much from such small speakers? The Ohms and kHz figures mean nothing to me.

This leads me onto wondering if I just have everything wired up wrong. I bought some QED 79 strand speaker cable from ebay but both wires are plain black as far as I can see and I can't distinguish which is the red and which is the black. I've taken some photos below but it is hard to get a clear photo of any markings on them.

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I listen to movies on 60 on my denon with Q Acoustics speakers.

Why do you feel that 50+ is too high? What's your reference point?

This is my first introduction to home cinema setup so I have nothing to compare it to. It may be the norm to have it as such volume I just wanted to double check as I thought I'd of got the volume from the speakers I get at 50 at the likes 30 instead but as I said in my first post, sound frequencies are gibberish to me.
 
I have the same AVR with 5 rather large Tannoys (DC6TSE, Precision 6C).

Playing an MP3 from the PC i'm at ~50 for moderate sound (loud for many) in that you could just about have a conversation over it without straining.

65+ and i'd be definitely annoying the neighbors - thankfully i'm detached :D

For a DTS/DD movie however, you seem to need around 10-15 more to reach the same sound level (finger in the air estimate).
 
does the amp not have auto phase ? regardless of that getting the cables the wrong way round wont affect the sound level
 
If it's at dB scale, then it works differently. My amps are 300W per channel but once calibrated, -50dB on mine would be exactly the same as -50dB on yours.

As for which is which cable, get a meter, do continuinity test then mark up + on each with a bit of electricians tape.
 
My Denon is set to come on at 40 normally crank it up to 50 for watching films.
Similar sized speakers to yours too.
Also are you using 2.0?
 
same speakers on an onkyo 509, normally watch movies at 30 and that's loud to the neighbors and my receiver kicks out less power than yours. have you got the levels turned down in the settings? if so you may be offsetting the volume.
 
On my Onkyo TX-SR607 (140w/ch) and Canton Movie 80 CX speakers (100w, tiny little things)... I watch TV at 10-20, movies at 15-25 and loud music at 30-40, at which point it can be heard throughout the house and I'm sure annoys next door greatly. Have it limited to 45 as anything over that starts to get silly.
 
depending on source i have mine between 50 and 65, did you run the audicity (iirc) setup as that would tell if any speakers are out of phase.
 
If you feel that you need to push the volume on the receiver, it is more likely that the input signal level being low that is causing it.
 
If you feel that you need to push the volume on the receiver, it is more likely that the input signal level being low that is causing it.


Nope- as long as you've used fixed level sources, and not correcting the low level input of that device. Also if that was the case, he'd notice that when he changes from source to source.
 
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