Home Server/NAS solution

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Hi, need a bit of advice, please. I need to get some effective server/NAS/backup for my small home network. This consists of 3 desktops and one laptop that always stays with me. I have currently use a docking station, with 3 HD’s in weekly rotation, one always off-site.

I have been looking at the HP Proliant Microserver, love the 4 bays, and low purchase and running costs, but really want more security than RAID 0/1. I’m on a budget, so RAID5, at least, seems a sensible and affordable compromise.

Thing is, because of the way I move around at work, it would also really help to have the capability of a decent affordable, idiot proof NAS (say, the Synology Diskstations) to allow me to access the server away from home. Things like ITunes are not so important, tbh….

I suspect my ideal solution might be something like the Synology Diskstation DS411J, but I just can’t afford it. Plus, I want to try building something myself….. I can build standard PCs, but have never touched a server build.

I know nothing about, say, good, cheap RAID controllers, if they exist, or whether I need to find a copy of something like WServer 2008, or can use Free-NAS (that is slow, right?). I also need advice about power usage.

What I already have is 3 x new Samsung F4 2tb, (current firmware), 2 old PCs (1 x AMD 2000, almost as new, and one lightly used AMD 4400 in a great aluminium case) and various PSU’s, 300-600w. They are 5yrs+ old, I suspect they are too big, and I would happily buy a new one.

I’m finding it hard to make a choice without going bankrupt, so any help appreciated. Cheers!
 
Thanks for the quick replies :)

Bearing in mind I have the 3 x 2tb disks and available cases, CPUs, m'boards etc, I am hoping to spend not a lot more, but £200 max, tbh.

There seems to be a lot of people who love software RAID, and a lot who won't touch it. Hell, if it works, and it's cheaper... ;-)
 
"I would get WHS 2011, for the OS seeing as you are using raid you dont need pooling, this would enable you to access files anywhere in the world :)

not sure on prices of raid cards but 4 port sata card shouldnt be too much"

Not sure what pooling is, but I have found a 4 port sata card for under £100
 
Software raid has taken its share of stick, but it does have 1 advantage, if your HW controller dies when your using raid, you have to go and get exactly the same model or it won't work, at least thats been my experience, SW raid however dosen't have this limitation

Thanks. It seems that both HW and SW raids have there strengths.
 
HP Microserver, WHS 2011 = simple, fairly idiot proof, reliable.

I have a Microserver running WHS V1 and it's been fantastic. The only issues I've had have all been at the expense of my own stupidity and running through every possible hardware/software failure, I just can't beat it.

Let me inject my own stupidity :-) -

So -

HP Microserver, WHS 2011. 4 x 2tb, booted off a microstick. Software raid 5 or better?

How does this compare with, say, a 411J? I know that a NAS is not backup, and will continue to keep a system copy offsite , via a docking bay unit. I know that the 411j will give me easy access to my data from offsite locations, at a high cost. If I can do this via a Microserver all the better...
 
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I have a microserver, with 1x500GB system drive, 4x2Tb internal drives, and 1x2TB external esata drive. i love it. I upgraded from a Synology NAS 407. The Synology was very good, but can't match the transfer speed of the microserver.

I'm running WHS v1 so can't comment on WHS 2011 vs synology 411, but I know 2011 is supposed to be a decent bit faster than WHS v1 (not having the overhead of folder duplication and drive balancing), so I would expect it to be much better than the synology."

Sorry, guys, I'm going into confused moron mode :-(

I get that I can put 4 x 2tb drives into the HP, plus can boot from the supplied 250 gb drive, or from a USB stick. I also get that I can use software RAID, though many people favour hardware RAID. As I understand it, I can only use hardware RAID 0 or 1 with the HP. If I want to use RAID 5 or 10 I need to use software RAID, right?

I have access to FreeNas and Unraid, as free software. I also have access to Windows server, WHS2008 and WHS2011. I have found a controller card that allows me to use 4 x HD's. I could (now - things have changed) afford to put 4 x 2tb drives into a box. I could also now, just, afford a DS411J, but would far rather build something cheaper have a load of cases and parts, plus I love the spec of the HP micro.

Apologies for the lack of server knowledge. I guess I am learning as I go....
 
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