Hosted Linux Servers

dangerstat

dangerstat

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Hi All,

Just a couple of questions about hosted linux servers. Basically in the near future I'd like to host a few prototype web applications. So I was thinking about renting a hosted linux server. The prices I've seen seem to vary massively, for something like a
Dual core opteron, 2GB, 400GB HDD, unlimited bandwidth at 100Mps what is a reasonable price. Personally I'd prefer to keep it under £55 PCM. Also do most hosted servers have X-forwarding? Rather than editing files and them uploading , or using a comand line editor I'd rather use something like xemacs on the remote machine to minor edits to my code.

Cheers

Dangerstat
 
Are you used to server administration? If not... you may be in for a shock if (or perhaps rather when) the server gets hacked. :o

With regards to your pricing, 100mbit unmetered is unlikely to be anywhere near £55, at least from a decent provider where the bandwidth is guaranteed. Any provider offering that for that price will probably have 30 servers going into a 100mbit port with a 100mbit up link to the internet - i.e. massive contention.

That said, you can get between 3000GB-10000GB data transfer a month with a lot of the budget providers these days. UK2, Rapidswitch, Poundhost all serve this area of the market.

Unless you have a specific reason for going AMD, i'd stick with dual or quad core Intel Xeons.
 
daz said:
Are you used to server administration? If not... you may be in for a shock if (or perhaps rather when) the server gets hacked. :o

With regards to your pricing, 100mbit unmetered is unlikely to be anywhere near £55, at least from a decent provider where the bandwidth is guaranteed. Any provider offering that for that price will probably have 30 servers going into a 100mbit port with a 100mbit up link to the internet - i.e. massive contention.

That said, you can get between 3000GB-10000GB data transfer a month with a lot of the budget providers these days. UK2, Rapidswitch, Poundhost all serve this area of the market.

Unless you have a specific reason for going AMD, i'd stick with dual or quad core Intel Xeons.
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No not much experience with server administration, at the moment I have a Debian box that I use for small scale testing, so I was hoping to go for a provider that'd offer Debian minimal install as a choice. I was having a quick look at read an offer for pretty much exactly what I posted for £82 per month, so I thought £55 didn't sound too outrageous. No there's no specific reason for going with Opteron's over Xeons I just thought it might be marginally cheaper.

I'll check out those that you mention. If I where going to go for a bandwidth capped option, I want to option to "upgrade" in the future to unlimited bandwidth without having to change hosting company TBH.
 
Hey dangerstat, give me an email, i could possibly help you out with your requirments. Email in trust or daniel(AT)iactivate(dot)co(dot)uk :D

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Poundhost have some cheap deals on, and even though the bandwidth is of course contended one server we lease there gets between 30-50Mbps in speed tests.

Our decent servers are all located at CoreIX, and you do pay for that (the cheapest one is around £160 a month).
 
Angelos_n said:
Hey dangerstat, give me an email, i could possibly help you out with your requirments.

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You might want to read the rules. ;) :p

A tracert on your domain suggests your website is hosted at eukhost, who in turn rent their servers from poundhost.
 
daz said:
You might want to read the rules. ;) :p

A tracert on your domain suggests your website is hosted at eukhost, who in turn rent their servers from poundhost.
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I may be wrong but as far as I know eukhost have racks in BlueSquare, and therefore rent racks from BlueSquare (and not servers from PH). BSQ also serve PoundHost and a number of other hosts. BlueSquare and Poundhost is all part of the BlueSquare Data Group just to make things a bit more confusing!! :p
 
We have our own suite (our own separate caged off area) in Bluesquare 2 with our own redundant network, so i am aware of the situation. :p

My point is you've got a lot of resellers of resellers when it comes to hosting companies. If something goes wrong, you want to be dealing with the company as high up the chain as possible.
 
Ahhh but what you guys missed is that i dont deal with webhosting, i own All my boxes and only buy webhosting from eukhost as it works out cheaper than running my own webserver. i dont resell :D

Angelosn
 
Kobrakai said:
I rent one of these:

http://order.1and1.co.uk/xml/order/...6E068E5D6090DB.TC33b?__frame=_top&__lf=Static
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That's the one I saw in my reply to Daz (post #3).

Thanks for your offer Angelos_n, I may well drop you an email.

Generally, how concerned should I me about security issues Daz? I so kind of assuming that as they where hosted there'd be no problems security wise?

Also what is "internal" security like, I don't like the idea of some techy viewing / editing / copying any apps or code I have on my server.

Cheers

Dstat
 
I'd be concerned about security, in my experience, an unprotected or badly protected server will be compromised one day. Maybe it's tomorrow or maybe it's 18 months time but it'll happen one day. You need a good iptables setup as the very minimum on a linux box, personally I believe you're mad if you don't have a hardware firewall but it's not a hard and fast rule, just my opinion.
 
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