How are people getting GPU's ?

[Ur round next]

The only thing really that has bugged me since I gained access to the MM in 2011'ish is people make you an offer of "I'll take at asking" and then they disappear for 24 hours, I've seen this quite literally hundreds of times, A popup window should come up when you access the MM in the middle of the screen that you cannot close for 30 seconds to make sure people read it "When making an offer to buy please do not disappear straight afterwards, Finish the transaction" or something along those lines, It's really friggin annoying.

Yeah iv had this happen to me, Only the 1 time tho and the Transaction was completed in the end

 

[Shogun_Krayt]

So, completely missing the community aspect. I understand that your view is that OcUK are doing these deals so that they go in to the hands of gamers vs miners, but the community aspect is a part of it that shouldn't be overlooked.

I didn't specify, but I also meant the KYC as an optional way to access the MM before reaching the post threshold under the current criteria. Some people are just naturally less "talkative" and only post when they have something important to say or ask, even though they may have been lurking in the community for a decade. What if the few posts they did make are of "higher quality" in terms of contributing to the community? Just a straightforward post count doesn't reflect that.

 

[Ur round next]

There will need to me many more mods to read every post to see if its of higher quality or not..Not viable

 

[Dicehunter]

Yeah iv had this happen to me, Only the 1 time tho and the Transaction was completed in the end

It's just such a bad way to conduct business, Shows zero decorum.

 

[Zefan]

Some people are just naturally less "talkative" and only post when they have something important to say or ask, even though they may have been lurking in the community for a decade. What if the few posts they did make are of "higher quality" in terms of contributing to the community? Just a straightforward post count doesn't reflect that.

That much is obvious, yes. But it isn't a matter if us denying that it is, it's a matter of it being impossible to implement something practical. We sniff out those who are simply padding post count very often, and are not fans of those who post, get to the MM, then stop. Aside from that, the resources to do a quality check of each individual's contribution just aren't, and won't ever be there. The quantity system is sufficient, and it allows us to err on the side of caution in that if you're not contributing in the way we deem appropriate, you don't get access.

 

[Shogun_Krayt]

Of course it would be unachievable to evaluate everyone's contribution. Thus, the KYC. Someone who's willing to waive their anonymity might be less likely to shoot the crap instead of providing high quality contributions.

If there are no alternatives to access these MM deals, a portion of the community is being let down. But I guess not everyone's an utilitarian and further tirades would be pointless.

 

[morsify]

How much was it out of curiosity ?

I sold my EVGA 2070 XC Ultra for £500 (bought it for 570 nearly 2 years ago), and bought the 2080ti (also an EVGA XC Ultra) for 950. Not cheap but it was nicely offset by the 2070 sale, and it will do very nicely for a couple of years until something sensible happens (hopefully) with newer GPUs.

 

[JediFragger]

I sold my EVGA 2070 XC Ultra for £500 (bought it for 570 nearly 2 years ago), and bought the 2080ti (also an EVGA XC Ultra) for 950. Not cheap but it was nicely offset by the 2070 sale, and it will do very nicely for a couple of years until something sensible happens (hopefully) with newer GPUs.

You did alright there, the Ti is still a cracking card! Should last you well

 

[morsify]

You did alright there, the Ti is still a cracking card! Should last you well

Yes I'm very pleased with it. Of course it still doesn't allow me to run MSFS at fullest detail (certainly not in VR), but then not even the 3000 series is finding that easy; but it's easily coping with anything else I throw at it, so I'm pleased with the upgrade.

 

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People aren't annoyed at a their "lack of posts", they're annoyed by ironic criteria. The guy that you're taking jabs at might be the perfect recipient of a MM deal, because instead of *********** on this forum he's likely spending his time actually gaming and making good use of the card.

Your kind of mindset and the current criteria promotes low quality "contributions". Would you want your community to devolve in such a way? Thanks for your "useful" insight, +1 to your post count.

It's OcUK, they can and do set the criteria. Those of us actively contributing to the community have the chance to grab a card if timing and luck combine.

11 posts and your last one summarises itself as:

'Gamers want cards, wah wah gamers deserve it because we are 1337 and need a card, card priority is gaming only super importance, I want my access to the cards because I'm important gamer, sort it, I'm annoyed wah wah'.

*Floor is full of ejected toys from pram*

If you don't like the community and don't want to contribute then you could always just leave as quickly as you joined. Your time could after all be better spent gaming with whatever rig you have or searching for a card

I'm pretty busy also, using my old 3DFX Voodoo 2 to mine for diamonds in the back garden.

 

[Shogun_Krayt]

It's OcUK, they can and do set the criteria. Those of us actively contributing to the community have the chance to grab a card if timing and luck combine.

11 posts and your last one summarises itself as:

'Gamers want cards, wah wah gamers deserve it because we are 1337 and need a card, card priority is gaming only super importance, I want my access to the cards because I'm important gamer, sort it, I'm annoyed wah wah'.

*Floor is full of ejected toys from pram*

If you don't like the community and don't want to contribute then you could always just leave as quickly as you joined. Your time could after all be better spent gaming with whatever rig you have or searching for a card

I'm pretty busy also, using my old 3DFX Voodoo 2 to mine for diamonds in the back garden.

I've been lurking the forums for almost a decade as they are indeed a great source of information. And, despite not having registered, one can feel as a part of a community by regularly reading around. Thanks for the excommunication.

That's neither my last post nor an accurate distillation of the point. Gaming is just one natural example of how some people might make better use of their hardware than others. As a student, with everyone working from home and strangling the uni compute clusters, I have an urgent need for personal hardware for ML experimentation, and I'm sure that's a frequent situation nowadays. It is down to everyone's individual morals of how much they want to deprive others of necessities, that might for themselves be just another luxury splurge.

I only decided to respond in the first place because you were taking jabs at a guy who's demonstrably been around the community since ages ago and feels there should be alternative access options. But apparently he hasn't lived up to your standard of forum ****poster. Essentially, you just proved my point about post quality, and sweet lord Jesus Christ save us if you truly think your blogging constitutes "contributions" to the community.

 

[dazzlaa]

I've been lurking the forums for almost a decade as they are indeed a great source of information. And, despite not having registered, one can feel as a part of a community by regularly reading around. Thanks for the excommunication.

That's neither my last post nor an accurate distillation of the point. Gaming is just one natural example of how some people might make better use of their hardware than others. As a student, with everyone working from home and strangling the uni compute clusters, I have an urgent need for personal hardware for ML experimentation, and I'm sure that's a frequent situation nowadays. It is down to everyone's individual morals of how much they want to deprive others of necessities, that might for themselves be just another luxury splurge.

I only decided to respond in the first place because you were taking jabs at a guy who's demonstrably been around the community since ages ago and feels there should be alternative access options. But apparently he hasn't lived up to your standard of forum ****poster. Essentially, you just proved my point about post quality, and sweet lord Jesus Christ save us if you truly think your blogging constitutes "contributions" to the community.

if you have an urgent need then you can buy a pre built system. They are readily available.

 

[Shogun_Krayt]

if you have an urgent need then you can buy a pre built system. They are readily available.

"Urgent" is relative to the asking price. I've got a good system ready apart from the GPU, and it would take needless effort to pawn off the rest buying a pre-built.

I'm mainly waiting for some official post about whether they will do any more public voucher deals/change the MM access. I've been constantly refreshing the forum last week hoping for a new voucher drop, but it's potentially a huge waste of time if they altogether decided it's not worth doing the public ones anymore and just didn't give an official statement. If that is the case, learning the highly transferable skill of e-tailer botting is a better use of time compared to making 1k forum posts

 

[dazzlaa]

I don’t understand, you have started to study a subject that requires you to have a very high level graphics card but you haven’t been able to buy any at all? When did your course start? Less than a year ago you could buy a 2080ti for <£600

 

[Shogun_Krayt]

I don’t understand, you have started to study a subject that requires you to have a very high level graphics card but you haven’t been able to buy any at all? When did your course start? Less than a year ago you could buy a 2080ti for <£600

One seldom ends their PhD with the direction they started off in . Most projects in STEM nowadays are highly interdisciplinary, and the current hype is the application of machine learning to re-evaluate subjects even from decades ago in this newfound capacity. I'm trying to branch out into ML, taking advantage of the datasets I managed to derive previously as a result of other projects. We do have GPU nodes in the cluster, but generally the queues are heavy and hogging specialized resources for exploratory exercises may not earn points with other folks.

 

[dazzlaa]

One seldom ends their PhD with the direction they started off in . Most projects in STEM nowadays are highly interdisciplinary, and the current hype is the application of machine learning to re-evaluate subjects even from decades ago in this newfound capacity. I'm trying to branch out into ML, taking advantage of the datasets I managed to derive previously as a result of other projects. We do have GPU nodes in the cluster, but generally the queues are heavy and hogging specialized resources for exploratory exercises may not earn points with other folks.

Yeah I understand changing directions in life. Unlike you though I’d be hogging those resources!
Good luck on the search then, there are cards out there to be had but the days of msrp availability are quite some time away yet I’d imagine.

 

[Shogun_Krayt]

Yeah I understand changing directions in life. Unlike you though I’d be hogging those resources!
Good luck on the search then, there are cards out there to be had but the days of msrp availability are quite some time away yet I’d imagine.

Thanks! I'm optimistic I'll manage to nab something, but in the worst case scenario I'll probably work the numbers for a pre-built, like you said, and recoup some costs.

 

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I've been lurking the forums for almost a decade as they are indeed a great source of information. And, despite not having registered, one can feel as a part of a community by regularly reading around. Thanks for the excommunication.

You should have registered earlier then and come to say hi. No excommunication happening here, just your view on some healthy debate levelled right 'back at ya'

That's neither my last post nor an accurate distillation of the point. Gaming is just one natural example of how some people might make better use of their hardware than others.

According to you. The real world doesn't work according to a few peoples opinions on the web and said people don't get to choose who buys said products.

As a student, with everyone working from home and strangling the uni compute clusters, I have an urgent need for personal hardware for ML experimentation, and I'm sure that's a frequent situation nowadays. It is down to everyone's individual morals of how much they want to deprive others of necessities, that might for themselves be just another luxury splurge.

You'll probably leave the insular world of Uni academia at some point and have to enter the real world, take this simple supply and demand situation seen in the GPU world these days as a valuable lesson.

Also, if you really wanted a GPU then there's been many times they've become available for reasonable prices and with enough availability to nab one without a bot or super speed fingers. Not putting in the effort and blaming others just comes across as a bit lazy, especially as you say you're WFH and likely at a computer. Students certainly don't have much else to do these days, which I'm really sad to see. Student days should be the best days of your life before entering the real world of adulthood and responsibility.

I only decided to respond in the first place because you were taking jabs at a guy who's demonstrably been around the community since ages ago and feels there should be alternative access options.

Taking jabs for you was me making a valid point about all the self entitled complainers coming out 'expecting' a GPU to be available for them as they have 'games to play'. Gamers are not god and are not the only ones entitled to PC components. Anyone with available funds and the ability to buy them all have the right to buy such things and in the days of low supply, it comes down to those who put the effort in.

But apparently he hasn't lived up to your standard of forum ****poster. Essentially, you just proved my point about post quality, and sweet lord Jesus Christ save us if you truly think your blogging constitutes "contributions" to the community.

Star out your sweary (like I have in my quote of your post) and read the forum rules on swearing if you haven't done so already.......... before preaching about 'post quality'

 

[Shogun_Krayt]

According to you. The real world doesn't work according to a few peoples opinions on the web and said people don't get to choose who buys said products.

Just because the "real world" is a certain way, doesn't mean it's operating in a morally optimal way, or that things cannot be changed for the better.

OcUK have shown a considerable amount of charity, way more than any other retailer, with their voucher deal concept and should be commended. My only beef is with your judgemental attitude that's based in a complete lack of empathy and ignorance of other people's circumstances.

Taking jabs for you was me making a valid point about all the self entitled complainers coming out 'expecting' a GPU to be available for them as they have 'games to play'. Gamers are not god and are not the only ones entitled to PC components. Anyone with available funds and the ability to buy them all have the right to buy such things and in the days of low supply, it comes down to those who put the effort in.

I'm not seeing demands from anyone. Only questions and suggestions. You're the one seemingly overreacting. How do you know why someone might have not had the time to hunt for a card at any given time? Maybe they're an essential worker that just want to relax with their system at the end of the day, but hardly have time to hunt for cards under the circumstances?

You're also hung up on this gaming thing as if it's the only purpose one might need a GPU for. Gabbo might have specifically mentioned gaming in his Sapphire 6700xt deal post, but there are artists that need to render, and not all applications of cryptography hinge on currency mining.

You CAN buy as many cards as you have the funds for, but is that the right thing to do in a society under conditions of scarcity?

Students certainly don't have much else to do these days, which I'm really sad to see. Student days should be the best days of your life before entering the real world of adulthood and responsibility.

What does your depiction of undergraduate students have to do with any of this?

Star out your sweary (like I have in my quote of your post) and read the forum rules on swearing if you haven't done so already.......... before preaching about 'post quality'

You can't possibly care more about a written representation of another word for faeces than being charitable and having empathy to understand other people?

 

[Dicehunter]

I don’t understand, you have started to study a subject that requires you to have a very high level graphics card but you haven’t been able to buy any at all? When did your course start? Less than a year ago you could buy a 2080ti for <£600

Read it again, Not my uni course.