How bad is it REALLY?

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Controversial one here.

I lived in London from 2006-2023. I still work in London every day. I've seen London's best and I've seen London's worst. I only use London as it's the only area I have enough experience to talk about, but I wouldn't be surprised if my suspicions ring true elsewhere.

Anyway, I've been out on the town in London at every time of day you can think of, in every area you can think of.

And if I put aside all the rubbish on social media, put away all the preconceived notions that have been fed direct in to my eyeballs by my (admittedly ridiculously high) social media consumption, what have I really witnessed?

I've seen the odd shoplifter, I've had the odd awkward discussion with people on the tube, I've seen loads of rude-bois in their baby BMW 116is, but all this narrative about how "london is lost" and "it's a warzone" and "muslim ray guns" and all that other nonsense? Not witnessed any of it myself.

I bring this up because this video from Evan Erdinger got me thinking. Everything we see on social media is designed for one thing - money. More outrage, more clicks, more misinformation, more ad revenue.

This isn't a thread to discredit what anyone else has experienced, like I said my sample size is only a tiny size of the UK, but it does beg the question: how much of what we read and see is real, and how much is just fabricated outrage for clicks?

I like to think I'm an optimist but when everything you consume on social media is designed to make you revisit and click more, when outrage is such a proven business model (look no further than the red tops for proof of this), and when people seem to be losing their ability to think critically, are we taking it too far?

There is of course no denying that certain walks of life do horrible things, but are those walks being pushed more because it generates clicks?

I dunno. I'm just musing, but zooming out for a moment and looking at the world around me through my actual eyeballs instead of what's being shown to me, it doesn't seem that bad at all.

Whatcha fink GD?
 
I lived there for a few years when I was younger. It's like most/all places, some good, some bad. Impersonal, cold. I live in a village now, have done for decades, and I wouldn't say I really know (or even like) anyone here either.
 
Lived in London years ago. Visit regularly now. Much nicer and cleaner than it used to be on the whole.

People that get their world view from social media can't be helped, they'll believe whatever gets their daily blood pressure elevation fix.
 
Lived there 30 years and it is ****.
It has changed hugely, demographically.
Whether you think that's good or bad is upto yourself.
 
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I live oop norf but have been darn sarf a few times. London seemed busy (obviously), people had no time for me a stranger asking for directions tbh, other than that, seemed ok, felt safe etc.
 
Whatcha fink GD?

I think you need to tell me where you got whatever you’re smoking


In all seriousness, I wholeheartedly agree.


If you turn off the noise, and open your eyes, the reality of the world is so different to what the media would have you believe.



I’ve loved reading the news less - it sounds awful but I just can’t read bait every day about how everyone else’s lives are so bad.



What stopped me was watching a video about the fact that as humans we’re not great at dealing with regular snippets of stress, so social media and news can overload our brains and result in chronic stress.
 
Grew up around Islington, lived in Brixton for a spell. Seen the worst of humanity in previous jobs, a lot of the London underworld were regular visitors.

But nah, I even make eye contact on the tube.

Common sense in any city, we used to call it being street wise but I get why non-city folk may think it’s like Beirut but it’s what you’re used to.

My 19 year old tells me Guildford is “rough” so much is his sphere of reference.
 
Emotionally exploiting and extorting people with distorted perspectives is why the world's so effd up. Objectivity is key. "Why is this narrative being pushed?" should become common sense.
 
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Ok.
I've only been mugged once at knife point for 20p when I was 12.
It's absolutely the same as any major city. There are danger areas and there are completely normal areas.
THey fluctuate over time.
There are dodgy people and communities and there are ok ones.

I'm too tired to actually write properly lol but usually it's all down to a healthy mix of xenophobia and misunderstanding.

Some cultures are more prone to reach for the machete to settle their disputes.

In South London I could easily get you a witch doctor or voodoo priest of your juju is bad or your house has an evil spirit.

Mac10 in 15 minutes? No. Problem. :p
 
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I spent a huge amount of time working in London and literally never saw a single incident of anything.

So yeah, when I read people saying it's dangerous, that you can't have your phone out, and that it's so bad they never visit - well, it's interesting how they have so much up-to-date information.

But we all know it's clickbait that sells.

I found Paris to be infinitely worse than anything I've ever seen in London.
 
This is amazing, I love the idea of Guildford being considered 'rough'.

Totally agree, we’ve had a couple of stabbings this year and a young man sadly died from them recently but it’s one of the safest places to live in the South I’d say, from experience of the polar opposite.

But it’s all he knows so I have to remember he’s had a very sheltered upbringing, which is both good and bad.
 
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