How far behind is our internet and structure compared to other eu countries
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We've dropped from 19th to 20th in the world ranking and I suspect that trend will continue. BT Openreach have mostly deployed fibre-to-the-cabinet and will continue to sweat our copper lines for the foorseable future with Gfast. A lot of other countries are rolling out fibre-to-the-home, which is much more future-proof. Unless you're one of the lucky few who got FTTP as part of BDUK, Have a new build or you're willing to stump up £££ you won't be getting FTTP anytime soon.
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Oddly enough, I got FTTP and I live in the middle of nowhere. I suppose it's possible that because I live so in the middle of no where that there was no speed left on FTTC when it arrived to the house? 
Oddly enough, I got FTTP and I live in the middle of nowhere. I suppose it's possible that because I live so in the middle of no where that there was no speed left on FTTC when it arrived to the house?
Easier to dig up and install the fibre, while in cities it's harder to get permission, close down roads/pavements, and work around all the existing stuff like other people's telephone lines.
It's a bit sad we are behind a lot of others, some who I would consider poor countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds
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The thing is, it's not just in the sticks that our broadband is poor. I live in Wargrave which is a commuter village about 5 miles east of Reading and a major commuter village for London due to its proximity to the Paddington line. Best I can get is basic ADSL at around 8Mb. No Infinity and no Virgin. Virgin will be cabling the area in 2017 but BT say they have no plans to roll out Infinity to us.
I live in a new build in the South East. An estate slap bang in the middle of existing homes all with Fibre. Guess what.... I can't get fibre. It's in Essex basically London Suburbs.
I MIGHT be able to get fibre next year but only FTTC...
Think there are something like 400+ houses here. If that isn't a major **** up don't know what is.
I could get it sooner.... but they want something like £10,000...
8mb it is for me.
I MIGHT be able to get fibre next year but only FTTC...
Think there are something like 400+ houses here. If that isn't a major **** up don't know what is.
I could get it sooner.... but they want something like £10,000...
8mb it is for me.
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I think we are around 7-8 years behind especially when you consider residents who are prepared to be pay for the cable to be installed to their premises and then pay line rental and monthly subscription on top of that.
My parents have a place over the river from you in Lower Shiplake, served by the Wargrave exchange. It was upgraded to FTTC last year and now serves 80/20 FTTC via virtually all of its cabinets.You are an unusual case on that exchange (EO line?) if you can only get 20CN ADSL...
We've got ourselves into the situation where consumer broadband differentiates itself on price or trivial things like how good the Wi-Fi is on the bundled router, because the majority of providers use the same underlying product.
Customers have been conditioned into accepting a certain maximum price for Internet connectivity, or even wanting it 'free' with other services, so there's not really a huge amount of room for a premium provider to be commercially successful when the current offering is deemed good enough by most people. I would imagine the people prepared to pay £80 per month for FTTP to their home, take on a five year contract for it and pay for the installation work are a tiny minority of home users.
Customers have been conditioned into accepting a certain maximum price for Internet connectivity, or even wanting it 'free' with other services, so there's not really a huge amount of room for a premium provider to be commercially successful when the current offering is deemed good enough by most people. I would imagine the people prepared to pay £80 per month for FTTP to their home, take on a five year contract for it and pay for the installation work are a tiny minority of home users.
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Its a joke how far behind we are in this country, ive only been able to get Fibre for a couple of years, and i can't get more than 40mb, can't get cable, nothing, 6mb was my max before.
If you were fortunate enough to find yourself living in the States, Google Fibre is only $80 for 1 Gb upload & download. We can but dream
11th by avg speed (in the Akamai Q3 2015 rankings) is pretty damn good I think.
Considering most of the countries in front are either densely populated south-east Asian where they do this sort of thing very well (South Korea, Hong Kong, Japan) or densely populated western/northern European countries (Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands, Finland, Denmark). Edit: for clarity, I mean most people in Sweden, Norway etc. live in urban centres, 80-85%.
Do you consider the Czech Republic and Romania as poor countries? They score very high (0.870) and high (0.793) on the HDI, not far behind the UK.
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You are an unusual case on that exchange (EO line?) if you can only get 20CN ADSL...
OK, I have no idea then. BT say I can't have it due to line length. I'm not far outside of Wargrave. Maybe 1/2 mile from the exchange.
I tried to get Infinity and they wouldn't even install it to just see if it works. Just a flat "No" your area isn't suitable and you can't have it.
