As you can see i run an olx x58 system, i upgraded to an X5660 a few years ago for £50 and wow its a beast, i run it with a small overclock to 3.7ghz, did that just last week and it feels so much faster in day to day use. ANYWAY I have been getting the upgrade itch and was thinking of grabbing a ryzen 7 2700x or similar, do you think this will be a decent bump in performance for me? I have doubts because i rarely max my current CPU out and would hate to upgrade and see very little improvement. Of Course it will mean getting away from SATAII to NVME and getting USB3 and DDR4 which would i guess be nice.
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How far have CPUs come? Will i see a big boost upgrading?
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to answer that i do a bit of everything, i do a lot of multitasking, as in 30+ chrome tabs, 2k video playback etc etc all at once, i play games from time to time, generaly CRPG's and WoW, i do photo editing using lightzone on RAW images. Just everything really, although i dont video edit and i know these multi core chips excel at that. I do want to make sure my PC will last as long as possible so i usually pick a rather over specced CPU instead of going for one that would be adequate, better to have a chip underused than wishing for a better chip.
I know i could probably get away with a ryzen 5 since i dont do a LOT of intensive things but i dont really want to be dropping core counts.
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Up until Ryzen was first released i also had an X58 with both a 975x and a 990x. At the time there were a number of reasons for changing, first it was old and i fancied something new. Second was because i was running under Phase 24/7 and wanted a quieter room 
. But the real reasons were i wanted more ram, USB 3, NVMe and a more up to date GPU (there would be no point running a 1080ti in an X58) I had long stopped benching on the X58 or even tinkering in the bios, there were no more benchies to do and the rig was very very stable.
Moving to Ryzen was like learning to clock and bench all over again, especially Ram, which i always have loved the challenge of.
Yes, it will be a bump in performance in all areas. Only you know if that "Bump" will be of any use to you though.
. But the real reasons were i wanted more ram, USB 3, NVMe and a more up to date GPU (there would be no point running a 1080ti in an X58) I had long stopped benching on the X58 or even tinkering in the bios, there were no more benchies to do and the rig was very very stable.Moving to Ryzen was like learning to clock and bench all over again, especially Ram, which i always have loved the challenge of.
Yes, it will be a bump in performance in all areas. Only you know if that "Bump" will be of any use to you though.
I'd wait for 8/16 core Intel coffee lake. See what that brings. It's intels answer to Ryzen.Anytime now that's what I'm doing.
If you have a decent cooler, whack that baby up. I could get 4.2 GHz with my X5650 and currently have my X5675 at 4.4 GHz. Gets a bit toasty when maxed out but works fine for gaming and encoding. The main issue with upgrading is the cost of DDR4 RAM, that is what has stopped me to be honest.
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Ask your self what benefit NVMe will offer you, if you are running day-to-day operating system tasks only on your system, then an ultra fast 3500MB/s read, 3000MB/s write sounds great but in reality the difference between normal SATA SSD's and NVMe is tiny, unless you are running VM's off one with lots of 4K (reads/writes) heavily threaded loads on it, and if you are want to take advantage of the sequential speed then you need more than one drive with those speeds, or you are just bottle-necking it, SATA III would be nice, over SATA II though.
Same thing about USB 3.0/3.1 (Gen1 & 2) what peripherals do you have that you cannot connect at be used well enough USB 2.0 speeds? External HDD, is the only one worth mentioning for most folks, and after that not much else will use the bandwidth.
DDR4 is faster than DDR3, latency is higher, and you already have good bandwidth since you have triple channel vs. dual channel.
If you play lots of games, then you might have a reason to upgrade, but unless you are running a GTX 1080, then the current system is not going to bottle neck you that much, esepcially if you kncok the overclock up to 4.0GHz plus, assuming you have the PSU, and cooling available.
It really is a properly poor time to upgrade a PC, imminent (2-3 months) change to graphics cards, Intel 8c/16t CPU's on mainstream chipsets, and even better than than AMD's Zen 2 will be here in ~10-11 months with potential to have 12c/24t CPU's for <£300, by which point you might be able to buy 16GB DDR4 3000MHz for £47 again, like you could in May 2016.
Ignoring everything above, if you just feel like upgrading, then go for it, it's always nice to have shiny new things and if you'll see a big benefit to your workflow, gaming, fun time on your computer then why the heck not? If you go AM4, you should be able to drop in a Zen 2 CPU when ever they are out (if you want to), if you go Intel then, well you get what you paid for now, and it will have to last you until you change again.
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Cost me around a fiver to get a USB3 card for my X5650 rig.
And yeh, you should get more from that chip...I use a £50 AIO @4.4Ghz and temps rarely go over 60C.
I have a Noctua D14, at stock it sits at ambient and 100% load it hits about 32c, im having an issue, if i overclock to say 3.7 like i was yesterday i cant put my pc to sleep, everytime i shut down or put it to sleep it refuses to boot, i have to clear the cmos and reset to defaults, its infuriating...at 3.7 it feels much faster too so can only assume up in the 4ghz range its blazing. I suck so much at overclocking to be honest, i just set voltages to auto, i just dont know where to start......
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You have the same issue as me, upgrade the old x58 or stick with it... in the end I decided with the help of people on here that the cost to upgrade simply wont give that much more performance for what I use my rig for, which is purely gaming. I've got my x5650 running stable at 4.4ghz and can push it to 4.8ghz if I up the v-core to over 1.45v, which is gaming stable, but not bench mark stable.
Personally, I'd overclock the CPU properly at get it to at least 4.0ghz which they all seem easily capable of from what I've seen. There's plenty of youtube benchmark video's with these x58's running 1080ti's with no bottlenecking issues.
Personally, I'd overclock the CPU properly at get it to at least 4.0ghz which they all seem easily capable of from what I've seen. There's plenty of youtube benchmark video's with these x58's running 1080ti's with no bottlenecking issues.
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I have the same board as you. Let me know if you want the settings I use.
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You can buy inexpensive Flash drives that hit over 200MBs as well and I use one for my daily document backup.
Considering that many people backup to external HDDs, using USB 2.0 will be considerably slower. You can be looking at a factor of 3 to 5 times slower so when moving around 100 of GBs or even a few TB the time difference can become hours.
But as someone else stated you can buy a PCIe card to add USB 3.0 anyway.
I would love the settings, it would be such a help, i find letting the board set voltages it over volts but its such a daunting task to reduce them one by one, with your settings it would be a nice starting point for sure!
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You actually just quoted what I said the only real use was for, external drives, and then went on to state why.
I suppose you could also count camera card transfer, QXD, CF, SD etc.
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I started by adding Flash Drives to the list and you have now added Card Readers.You actually just quoted what I said the only real use was for, external drives, and then went on to state why.
I suppose you could also count camera card transfer, QXD, CF, SD etc.
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I was stating, that yes, I suppose you could add those types of drives as external disks e.g. flash based devices.
Data transfer from an external storage medium, better?
Not sure you seen my reply but if you do get a chance i would love to see your settings, i tried again today and i can get to 4ghz and even 4.2 but thats using auto voltages, it gets VERY toasty!
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Haven't forgotten, should have them up today.
Fantastic! Thanks very much! Cant wait to see if the settings transfer over perfectly!
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Does anyone know if having faster memory using XMP profile allows a better overclock? I'm tempted by some 1866mhz or 2133mhz stuff if it will allow me to run my x5650 at a stable 4.8ghz.