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How Good...or Bad...is Ampere? Worse than Fermi?
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why has he based it all on the 2080ti vs. 3090, rather than 2080 vs. 3080 - or even the 2080ti vs. 3080, which is where all the value is?
his own charts show that for the same launch price, a 3080 is effectively 80-100% faster in relative performance than the 2080. that's the biggest price-performance leap we've seen in a long time.
the 3090 isn't a flagship card, it's a niche product for professional use and people who have a money no object approach to performance. the 3080 is the flagship.
his own charts show that for the same launch price, a 3080 is effectively 80-100% faster in relative performance than the 2080. that's the biggest price-performance leap we've seen in a long time.
the 3090 isn't a flagship card, it's a niche product for professional use and people who have a money no object approach to performance. the 3080 is the flagship.
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Cause it fits his narrative and gets the clicks from all the feverish fanboys and haters in his audience.
Because you're comparing generational performance for the architectures on the whole, not cherry picking examples to make Ampere shine. If you look at 3080 vs 2080 Ti and take into account OC then it's a 15% jump. Is that really better in your view
His video is spot on (and I don't like the guy at all), and I've said this since the beginning - Ampere is a turd (especially if you factor in OC), which only looks half-good compared to the absolute **** stain that was Turing, and yet... it doesn't matter. At the end of the day we still need a GPU & if we want to enjoy our gorgeous 4K displays and drive games properly then we don't really have an alternative. It's a **** jump, but I'll still buy one because it's better than waiting for some miraculous jump that might never come and I'm okay with the price all in all. I don't need to delude myself into thinking it's the "greatest leap ever" just because I'll buy one though. That's just non-sense.
Why people can't separate the two and instead become echoes of Nvidia's marketing remains baffling to me.
That doesn't have some of the driver features that would be needed for some professional software.
That also has a really high power draw which is not something professionals would want in systems that they will pushing for 8+ hours everyday. Or 24/7 for render machines.
That was clocked as high possible to squeeze as much performance out it is as possible.
The 3090 is on the same GPU core as the 3080, they are just cut differently. If we get a 3080ti it will not be faster than the 3090. The 3090 is the fastest gaming GPU that Nvidia can produce with the Ampere architect. Even with your logic, at best you can ignore the performance per dollar chart.
you would compare the 3080 to the 2080ti as they're both the flagship cards, so it's a fair comparison... both by nVidia's own admitence, both the top gaming card in their portfolio.You can kinda just ignore the 3090 really as that really is a niche card... however if people wanted to you would compare 2080TI to 3090, both imho are valid comparisons, as the TITAN was above 2080TI wasn't it and there is actually currently no TITAN from a 3000 series point of view.
However to say AMPERE isn't a very good jump in performance is ridiculous... AMPERE performance wise is superb, simple as that... and I'm an AMD fan. Ignoring the actual shambolic release and just judging on hardware and speed, it's superb piece of kit and truly gives us 4k gamning properly for what IMHO the first time.
However to say AMPERE isn't a very good jump in performance is ridiculous... AMPERE performance wise is superb, simple as that... and I'm an AMD fan. Ignoring the actual shambolic release and just judging on hardware and speed, it's superb piece of kit and truly gives us 4k gamning properly for what IMHO the first time.
he is already cherry picking anyhow only 2 cards have been released. The 3090 which at 1400£+ was never going to win any awards. 3080 is out at similar price point as the 2080 at the time and really is quite a jump up. We have 3070 and 3060 which is more mainstream cards that’s were we will see the price to performance difference not on the high end and halo product. Until, the major part of the cards launch they we can compete this generation against the last then compare fermi
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That's a very good analysis by jim. I'm no fan but he really picked apart Nvidia marketing and business practices.
With all that factual information made available to the public it's impossible to ignore the truth.
Anyone who didn't like it can only claim they dont care. Claiming he should have used 3080 vs 2080ti is laughable going from one generation performance to another.
With all that factual information made available to the public it's impossible to ignore the truth.
Anyone who didn't like it can only claim they dont care. Claiming he should have used 3080 vs 2080ti is laughable going from one generation performance to another.
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