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How serious is the issue of Intel 12th gen CPUs bending due to the socket?

janelt98

janelt98

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So I'm looking to build a PC and I was ready to go with intel for the CPU (12400f) but now I'm hesitating after reading about the issue of the ILM on LGA1700 socket causing bending of the CPU. I know the only issue people have said it can cause is higher temps but what I'm more worried about is the long term effects. Surely if the CPU warps over time then this will have a negative effect on stability (particularly with Ram) and degrade performance? I would install the contact frame as an alternative but as a first time builder, it seems like a lot of hassle and I would be worried about something going wrong by not installing it correctly. What do you guys think?
 
There was a lot of talk about this when the socket was new, but I think if it was a widespread problem, we'd have a lot of complaints by now. If it really concerns you, then I'd switch to the 5600 or 5600X, which are available for similar money (or cheaper).
 
The Thermalright contact frame is ~£11 and only takes a couple minutes to fit and is much easier than you might've imagined.

I've done it many times now with no issues. Just remember to stop screwing when you feel some resistance.

Gamers nexus did a pretty comprehensive tutorial on fitting it.

 
Tetras said:
There was a lot of talk about this when the socket was new, but I think if it was a widespread problem, we'd have a lot of complaints by now. If it really concerns you, then I'd switch to the 5600 or 5600X, which are available for similar money (or cheaper).
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Yh i can get a 5700x with motherboard and 32gb ddr4 ram for about £430. The i5 12400f combo has 32gb ddr5 ram and motherboard for about £30 more.
 
MartinPrince said:
No real point in pairing the 12400f with DDR5 so you might as well factor in a DDR4 motherboard and RAM and compare those prices.
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Issue is it's an itx build and the cheapest ddr4 motherboard I can find (gigabyte b660i) is £20 more expensive than the ddr5 motherboard (Asus rog strix b660-i) so really prices are about the same when you take into account the ram.
 
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janelt98 said:
So I'm looking to build a PC and I was ready to go with intel for the CPU (12400f) but now I'm hesitating after reading about the issue of the ILM on LGA1700 socket causing bending of the CPU. I know the only issue people have said it can cause is higher temps but what I'm more worried about is the long term effects. Surely if the CPU warps over time then this will have a negative effect on stability (particularly with Ram) and degrade performance? I would install the contact frame as an alternative but as a first time builder, it seems like a lot of hassle and I would be worried about something going wrong by not installing it correctly. What do you guys think?
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No need to worry at all, it's a complete non issue.

On the highest performing parts (12900k, 13900k etc) it means that for anything above a moderate overclock, a "contact frame" is required, as this improves temperatures caused by the slight 'curving' of the IHS.

Nothing to worry about and no long term issues. It's been completely hyped up, much by the same crowd that insisted the 4090's would burn down everyone's home due to the 12VHPWR cable "issue".
 
With these contact frames being made of aluminium I presume liquid metal is a no no, or is there a fair bit of space between the CPU heatspreader and the contact frame?
 
PIPPI said:
With these contact frames being made of aluminium I presume liquid metal is a no no, or is there a fair bit of space between the CPU heatspreader and the contact frame?
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90% of the time, Liquid metal is only an issue when applying/removing it. Long term usage isn't really an issue if your mounting pressure is spot on as it adheres to the cooler/IHS pretty well.

Just make sure your cooler isn't made up of Aluminium.

I would say that I used to use liquid metal but I killed a 980 TI (a dumb decision, I know) when removing it off the GPU and I switched to a good regular paste just because dealing with insurance was more painful than dropping a further 1 or 2 degrees.

I would use the frame with a good regular thermal paste personally.
 
Had mine since launch, temps have not changed a single bit. Didn't expect GB boards to be affected by it, and indeed, not affected.
 
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