How to debate

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I've been roped into a debating society at school, I've got to prepare a debate on why we should have a year of services to the state when we leave school, (eg: national service, community service volunteers) I haven't really got much of a clue on how to prepare or how to debate


HELP!!!

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research facts figures and then opinion.

crime rates, service shortages, unemployment, what other countrys do and what the stats there show.

etc etc.

once you done research, debating is then how good you are at public peaking.
 
Or ask in SC if "we should have a year of services to the state when we leave school" - I'm sure you'll get loads of opinions in there... just actually check all the "facts" before presenting them :p
 
Find some dirt on your opponent.

How they wet the bed til they 16 or something similar. If you can't find anything, just make it up you might get lucky. :D
 
Or ask in SC if "we should have a year of services to the state when we leave school" - I'm sure you'll get loads of opinions in there... just actually check all the "facts" before presenting them :p

Do you want the poor lad to be completely bamboozled? Although that said it is a lot quieter in there than it used to be which is a bit of a shame even if sometimes it did descend into a boring farce rather than debate.

My advice would be that even if you are the "for" (your post gives that impression at least) then you should still spend a significant amount of time on the "against" points because you will then be better prepared for any rebuttals that may come your way and if you include yet diminish the other sides points before they even make them it can be rather effective.
 
Spend as much time researching what the other side is likely to say as you do researching what you want to say. Ideally you want them to mention an obscure, but, in their opinion, argument winning point, but because you've researched it you can say 'ahh, but that was written by a nazi, who was drunk at the time' - or whatever. It puts them on the defensive on their own points. My favourite in debates has to be when they selectively quote something, for example 'I would certainly agree all dogs should be shot', but because you've found the quote already you can continue reading on 'I would certainly agree all dogs should be shot, if I was a complete nutter - of course they shouldn't be' and they end up looking very red faced.

Try not to use straw man arguments and make a point on pointing out how many of theirs are.

For this particular debate I'd be looking at:
What countries do and don't have it - how people in those countries feel about that.
What people would otherwise do during that year - what affect not doing that would have on society/them

You're going to be looking over these points on three basis:
1. benefit/loss to personal well being
2. benefit/loss to the economy
3. benefit/loss to society's well being (including crime/artistic endeavours)

Why does service work in countries where it works well? Why does it not work in other countries. What countries have, in the last 50 years tried to introduce conscription (if any) and what's happened because of it.

Are there any procedural problems with it? How much would it cost to administer? What do you call the end of school - would people who are needing to repeat a year have to do that final year after their year of service? etc etc
 
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although opening statements are important the most crucial part is your response to what your opponent says.

build your case on facts, quick stats etc so give it credibility and then weave your opinion around the facts.

use of rhetoric and grand statements is expected.

do not read from pre prepared sheets as far as possible.

basically prepare a well reasoned argument - it does not need to cover all the points - but should cover the most pertinent.

try and strike the audience's interest also.
 
Don't bother, if you try and debate anything these days people just assume you are arguementative, insult you, and wander off... well, on ocuk anyway.
 
I'm not sure you've read the thread - he's taking part in a debate. If everyone just went to it and 'didn't bother' then it'd just be people sat in a room in silence...
 
[TW]Fox;10400356 said:
Don't bother, if you try and debate anything these days people just assume you are arguementative, insult you, and wander off... well, on ocuk anyway.

This is so true. :)
 
Facts are important. Blind them with your knowledge!

First, tell them what you're going to say. Second, tell them it. Third, tell them what you've said. Don't rush and think of ways to slow yourself down if you think that you're going to. That's important. If you're taking notes in, do it on note cards, not A4. And DON'T read from the sheet - it should be for prompts only.
 
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