how to declare vehicle SORN without V5 and without the vehicle?

[unwashed potato!]

my own fault, but totally forgot about vehicle tax due to it being a direct debit thing. but any way we had a work van hit into and insurance took it away and decided it was not worth repairing so gave the money for it and done, i chucked away the V5.

same thing then for a work car a few weeks later, they decided not worth fixing, give money and done. i put the v5 in bin.

now it hit me that the vehicles are taxed and i can get unspent months back.

i tried to SORN online but it needs the V5. I tried to get a new V5, but it needs the VIN, which is inside the vehicle that's now gone

anyone know what I can do?

 

[unwashed potato!]

Yup true. I didn't even consider as was first time I've had this, and while the first claim was concluding, the second happened, so the busy of the 2nd didn't make me consider all the steps from the first. Plus surely insurance should have got us to do this any way.

 

[unwashed potato!]

When it's sold/transfered, does the vehicle tax auto come back any way without my input?