How would you route cables for this?

Nitrojan

Nitrojan

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Hi all,

Bit of a long shot but I'm baffled and struggling to work out how best to run the electric and AV cables if I were to wall mount my TV above the fireplace.

Obviously I'm thinking a fused outlet behind the TV and the easiest option would be to spur from the double socket to the bottom right hand side of the fireplace (see picture), however, I already have a switch spurred from this outlet for the bulbs to the niches. Ideally I don't want to have two spurs from one socket and therefore the only other option I have is to spur from the only other double socket on the left hand wall which would mean running power within an internal corner.

I also need to run audio/visual down by the right hand side socket as well.

So yeah, a bit of a mish mash and by no means simple.

Can I ask for some advice? How would you run the cables? What would be the easiest and safest route?

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Adam
 
Thanks mate.

I've chased cables before but I'm not 100% on the electric side of things. Forgive my ignorance but do you mean fit a FCU for the lights spurred from the double socket and then a second FCU spurred from the first FCU, to the TV?

I may have it totally wrong but thanks for your help anyway :)
 
Thanks bremen.

Yeah I've read up about all that, it's just ensuring that I'm wiring each socket correctly and only taking spurs where I need them that I need be 100% sure on.

It may be a job for a sparky but if I can do it myself I'd prefer to.
 
Spoke with an electrician today and was told I'd need a fuse box upgrade because I'd need RCD protection... For one cable run due to me having to run it out of the safe zone and around the fireplace, also because I can't go more than 16mm deep on horizontal runs. Seems ridiculous.

Surely I could run a vertical channel from where the TV will go, remove the mantlepiece and then have cables coming out of the wall, run them within the mantlepiece externally to low level and then back in the wall within the safe zone in line with low level socket or skirting level?

Any suggestions appreciated.
 
Yeah I was thinking along those lines too (literally :p).

Hmm, my existing ring has rcd protection anyway so not sure why he was mentioning a fuse box upgrade. Just don't want to get fleeced.
 
Entai said:
RCD protection is because the cables are not buried 50mm or more into the wall, or you are not using cables having an earthed metallic covering or cables enclosed in an earthed metal conduit whether they are in safe zones or not.

Not having seen your fusebox, I could be wrong, but are you maybe getting MCB and RCD mixed up ?

Most concumer units have Mini Circuit Breakers (MCB) on the ring main, not RCD. (Residual Current Device)

You would have an RCD on the mains into the fusebox but not many have them on individual circuits.
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Ahh perhaps I am yeah... Great.

So what I thought was a simple job is turning out to be an absolute ballache. My walls are dot and dab so I have very little to play with in terms of chase depths. And as I need horizontal runs AFAIA, I cannot chase more than 16mm depth. Out of interest Entai, would bremen's suggestion above for routing work in terms of compliance do you know?
 
Yeah 30mA rings a bell. Sounds expensive, all for a bloody wall mounted TV.

Surely others have experienced this problem :(

Rules and regulations these days eh...
 
chaparral said:
Can you come from the ceiling down to the TV ?

IE: Spur off from the up stairs ring main that maybe under the up stairs floor boards and straight down to a socket behind the TV..(Would this be allowed ? :confused:)
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This is a very good point. One I'd never considered either.

I'd be keen to know if this is allowed too as I do actually have a socket almost directly above.
 
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