Hows this for irony?

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Generally speaking, in Britain and the West today women are free to pursue careers and have fun, whereas in the past they would have been married off to have a family and stay at home. The consequence of this that birth rates are falling, some countries are worse than others.

While this is going on immigrants are coming into the country who still have old fashioned values. They have arranged marriages and start families at a young age. In some parts of the UK, immigrants are responsible for most births.

Women are free , but they are handing the future to people with completely different values.

FERTILITY RATE
In Europe 2.1 children per woman is considered to be the population replacement level. These are national averages
Ireland: 1.99
France: 1.90
Norway: 1.81
Sweden 1.75
UK: 1.74
Netherlands: 1.73
Germany: 1.37
Italy: 1.33
Spain: 1.32
Greece: 1.29

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/07/nfert107.xml

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/08/nbabies108.xml

Prediction for US by 2050
http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695252321,00.html
 
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Can i see the statistical data for this claim please? :)

And I don't just mean a Daily Mail article or two or one individuals rantings.

Some hard, solid, preferably government funded datasets showing this massive bias towards people of non british origin shooting out babies while the native population sits back and has next to no children.

I'm not saying your statement is incorrect, I just like to see the proof when people present their opinion as fact.
 
I mean, I thnk this country could end up being an islamic state for the simple fact that while British women were haveing a laugh, the immigrants were breeding.
 
manic_man said:
Can i see the statistical data for this claim please? :)

And I don't just mean a Daily Mail article or two or one individuals rantings.

Some hard, solid, preferably government funded datasets showing this massive bias towards people of non british origin shooting out babies while the native population sits back and has next to no children.

I'm not saying your statement is incorrect, I just like to see the proof when people present their opinion as fact.
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Birth rates falling is a fact.

People of other cultures having many children is a fact, but so is chavs not knowing how to use a condom, or just wanting more child maintenance allowance.
 
Ben M said:
Birth rates falling is a fact.

People of other cultures having many children is a fact, but so is chavs not knowing how to use a condom, or just wanting more child maintenance allowance.
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Its an inevitable divide between the rich and the poor and as far as i am aware has always been in place. The difference is, the UK's "poor" now contains more people from other countries.

What I simply havent seen any bias towards personally is the fact the UK is going to become a muslim country? Its a scaremongering phrase that is not based in fact.

As with most developed nations we have MINORITY sub communities, usually either seperated by religion or race, and I admit the muslim communities appear more prevalent than ever, but only because as a nation we are attacking their religion almost daily, so they are shouting back..

Personally I think its all terribly stupid, I mean if the only way you can get your point across is to kill, injure or threaten the opposition then you are a very weak individual indeed :\ but thats an entirely unrelated point to this thread.

I'll bet if you look at some Northern areas and indeed maybe areas of London then yes, the birthrate of the minority communities will outstrip that of the indiginous populous, but then look at the rest of the country and you'll see far less bias, if anything I would imagine the traditional middle class 2.4 children families, who are nearly always indiginous (generalisation) may well reproduce more than the other groups.

Given that this country is run by a largely white, male government and is showing little sign of change (this is not to say specific communities are not represented by somebody from their own clique), the majority of our entertainers are indiginous and our outward image to other countries is still very very "british" I personally don't feel that I am likely to be stoned as an infidel any time soon.

Maybe i'm wrong, I hope i'm not!!

Given my business is data visualization and extrapolation though, all recent verified data sources I have looked at on the subject of population show white british is still very much the majority, and the change in the minority percentages is very very slow. Although I must point out, this is not all I do, I just happened to have been studying this form of dataset recently as it fitted some other work I was doing.

Hmm long reply...
 
That's not a proper G.D. reply, its at least 7 paragraphs too long, is well constructed, proper punctuation and you put your point across succinctly and clearly.

back to S.C. with you, tarnishing G.D. with intellectual thoughts :mad:
 
manic_man said:
Its an inevitable divide between the rich and the poor and as far as i am aware has always been in place. The difference is, the UK's "poor" now contains more people from other countries.

What I simply havent seen any bias towards personally is the fact the UK is going to become a muslim country? Its a scaremongering phrase that is not based in fact.

As with most developed nations we have MINORITY sub communities, usually either seperated by religion or race, and I admit the muslim communities appear more prevalent than ever, but only because as a nation we are attacking their religion almost daily, so they are shouting back..

Personally I think its all terribly stupid, I mean if the only way you can get your point across is to kill, injure or threaten the opposition then you are a very weak individual indeed :\ but thats an entirely unrelated point to this thread.

I'll bet if you look at some Northern areas and indeed maybe areas of London then yes, the birthrate of the minority communities will outstrip that of the indiginous populous, but then look at the rest of the country and you'll see far less bias, if anything I would imagine the traditional middle class 2.4 children families, who are nearly always indiginous (generalisation) may well reproduce more than the other groups.

Given that this country is run by a largely white, male government and is showing little sign of change (this is not to say specific communities are not represented by somebody from their own clique), the majority of our entertainers are indiginous and our outward image to other countries is still very very "british" I personally don't feel that I am likely to be stoned as an infidel any time soon.

Maybe i'm wrong, I hope i'm not!!

Given my business is data visualization and extrapolation though, all recent verified data sources I have looked at on the subject of population show white british is still very much the majority, and the change in the minority percentages is very very slow. Although I must point out, this is not all I do, I just happened to have been studying this form of dataset recently as it fitted some other work I was doing.

Hmm long reply...
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The man speaks the truth ;)
 
neocon said:
I mean, I thnk this country could end up being an islamic state for the simple fact that while British women were haveing a laugh, the immigrants were breeding.
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I'm sorry, are you actually in some way blaming women who decide to have a career for supposedly turning britain into an islamic state? my god...

I mean seriously, I don't know whether to laugh or cry
 
I mean, I thnk this country could end up being an islamic state for the simple fact that while British women were haveing a laugh, the immigrants were breeding.
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Have you spoken to a woman before ? Believe it or not, there not (all) just baby producing machines. Might want to watch the sexism.
 
tbh me and my gf of 6 years don't want kids at alll.... i know we are still young but we both genuinely can't see us chaging our minds...

Ours lifes do not need to be "completed" by having children... i hate kids, I see them as a burden holding me back from living my life to the full...
 
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