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[lukus001]

Not sure if I really need that motherboard, Want ddr3 atleast and since I'm buying a graphics card I suspect that chipset is probably not really needed?

PSU certainly isnt needed ~ will most likely change, another company had it on offer for £80 odd so that why that one is in there.

Certainly don't want an asus. I do intend to OC, so stability in OCing would be good

Still have to add hard drive to it: was looking at a SSD (for a fast boot disk, so small and cheap, can't see me wanting anymore than for windows OS, got plenty of hard drives in my dead, old computer) Did have patriots addded in but looked at the bench marks for it and gathered they were worthless ¬¬.

Would love to have a RAM disk added instead, but it seems no where sells them? There is one company selling Gigabytes i-RAM but it's a 5" bay version not the PCI card. Anyone know of any other models? Would love a ddr2 version (got some in old system) (i-ram is ddr).

And then all i need is 8GB of DDR ~ I don't like OC's selection why corsair which is semi decent and then no name brands? thought curcial and kingston were the big dogs?

 

[stulid]

You can obviously save money by choosing a 955CPU.

The psu is too much, a corsair HX650 or ANTEC new truepower 650W would be ideal.

Corsair, ocz, g-skill and geil are the big dogs from ram, always being recommended on these forums, for good reason.

And if you can afford a SSD, then why not, they are certainly fast, a 64Gb size one would be plenty with a harddrive from your old pc installed for storage.

And £70 for a cooler is to much, plenty of £20-£30 ones are equally as good, titan fenrir, or a corsair H50 cooler.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Not sure if I really need that motherboard, Want ddr3 atleast and since I'm buying a graphics card I suspect that chipset is probably not really needed?

PSU certainly isnt needed ~ will most likely change, another company had it on offer for £80 odd so that why that one is in there.

Certainly don't want an asus. I do intend to OC, so stability in OCing would be good

Still have to add hard drive to it: was looking at a SSD (for a fast boot disk, so small and cheap, can't see me wanting anymore than for windows OS, got plenty of hard drives in my dead, old computer) Did have patriots addded in but looked at the bench marks for it and gathered they were worthless ¬¬.

Would love to have a RAM disk added instead, but it seems no where sells them? There is one company selling Gigabytes i-RAM but it's a 5" bay version not the PCI card. Anyone know of any other models? Would love a ddr2 version (got some in old system) (i-ram is ddr).

And then all i need is 8GB of DDR ~ I don't like OC's selection why corsair which is semi decent and then no name brands? thought curcial and kingston were the big dogs?

The 850W PSU is a bit OTT TBH!!

I would go with the Seasonic X-650 or X-750:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-013-SS

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-014-SS

I would go for this motherboard as it has an 8+2 phase VRM:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-392-AS

The Gigbayte only has a 4+1 phase VRM which will limit its overclocking ability. However the Asus motherboard lacks USB 3.0 but this version of the motherboard also has USB 3.0:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-393-AS

If you want to stick with Gigabyte get one of these motherboards instead:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-237-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-231-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

 

[lukus001]

Thanks for the replies guys :3

I've changed my PSU over, thanks for the suggestions! :3.

I like gigabyte because of the 2oz copper (Although other companies do it too) though I don't know what the difference between the chipset in mine and the two you suggested Cat? Their all pratically the same price, thought mine was a more modern /updated chipset though?

as far as I'm aware with the 4/8 phase stuff, more is not necessairly better. More (can) "=" smaller, cheaper phases since there is less strain on a single phase, therefore you can have a crappy 16phase which performs worse than a 4phase.

Based on that theory, plus the fact companies can alter their products to meet supplier issues (i.e. they can get 8phase for cheaper from xyz) a 4 vs 8 phase debate is rather meaningless without the specs on their outputs?? If it's high quality vs high quality then for sure, 8+1 out performs.

Actually I've had a long, painfully hard search for a good air-cpu cooler ~ TRUE seems to always appear as the best and I agree it's probabily over priced Thought ThermoLab Baram CPU would be good after seeing good benchmarking but its all ??? to me

i hear corsair h50 isn't that great either, and after having a very expensive Koolance water cooled pc leak from the manufactured in/out piping system, only to be sent a replacement resivor/pump that clearly had a revised design >.< dont think i will risk my lovely pc on water again

thanks for your replies, much appreciated.

 

[cmndr_andi]

I strongly suggest you don't get the TRUE copper. It cools very well, but because it is pure copper it is so heavy that Thermalright recommends you only mount it horizontally, as mounting it vertically (like in a tower case) can damage the motherboard.

As an alternative, I would suggest this.

As for the fan, if the 140mm fan is for the CPU cooler I would suggest switching to two of the 120mm versions. The way the fans mount on the TRUE and the Megahalems means that they really need to be normal 120mm type fans to fit properly.


As for the rest of your spec, I must ask the question : What do you plan to do with your system and what is your overall budget?

 

[stulid]

Thanks for the replies guys :3

I've changed my PSU over, thanks for the suggestions! :3.

I like gigabyte because of the 2oz copper (Although other companies do it too) though I don't know what the difference between the chipset in mine and the two you suggested Cat? Their all pratically the same price, thought mine was a more modern /updated chipset though?

as far as I'm aware with the 4/8 phase stuff, more is not necessairly better. More (can) "=" smaller, cheaper phases since there is less strain on a single phase, therefore you can have a crappy 16phase which performs worse than a 4phase.

Based on that theory, plus the fact companies can alter their products to meet supplier issues (i.e. they can get 8phase for cheaper from xyz) a 4 vs 8 phase debate is rather meaningless without the specs on their outputs?? If it's high quality vs high quality then for sure, 8+1 out performs.

Actually I've had a long, painfully hard search for a good air-cpu cooler ~ TRUE seems to always appear as the best and I agree it's probabily over priced Thought ThermoLab Baram CPU would be good after seeing good benchmarking but its all ??? to me

i hear corsair h50 isn't that great either, and after having a very expensive Koolance water cooled pc leak from the manufactured in/out piping system, only to be sent a replacement resivor/pump that clearly had a revised design >.< dont think i will risk my lovely pc on water again

thanks for your replies, much appreciated.

which psu you getting now?

And your right, the motherboard does have the latest chipset and features so keep it.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The 890GX chipset basically combines the SB850 southbridge,with the improved HD4290 IGP and symmetrical Crossfire 8X/8X support. The SB850 southbridge has native SATA 3.0 support. USB 3.0 support is not native OTH and is provided by an optional NEC controller which all 890GX motherboards do not have. However the 790X motherboards can have SATA 3.0 support through an additional chip(the Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 does this) or using the SB850 southbridge instead of the SB750. They can also have USB 3.0 support.

All the high end Gigabyte 790X and 790FX motherboards use 8+2 designs(OK I know it means 4+4+2 in most cases) and all of the Asus 790X,790FX and 890GX employ similar designs. AFAIK this design tends to run cooler.

It seems that even though Gigabyte seems confident to have a 4+1 design for its first 890GX motherboard it is not doing so for its more expensive 890FX motherboard:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/26166/

The Asus 890GX motherboard is also a much better effort when compared to the Gigabyte one according to this review:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/18539/1

The Asus motherboard is a better overclocker and consumes less power too.

 

[lukus001]

Thanks again all, much appreciated.

Cmndr, I was aware of the TRUE heatsink limitations. I actually prefer horizontal mounted motherboards vs tower. My old case fits well within this requirement. Titan's cpu cooler does look good and the benchmarks I've seen was roughly 7 degrees hotter than the TRUE so I might even go for that one :3

As per intended requirements: Gaming (mostly L4D2, bought Bad company 2 but my poor laptop can't handle it ), programming, 3D modeling /rendering usually lots of multi tasking!

I'm not really a fan of "high details" so I'm hoping the ATI 5770 will play nicely with high FPS and higher resolutions atleast, but I dont know if I shouldlive with the onboard graphics for now (or use my old PCIe graphics card) and save up for a higher end one XD.

Budget is about £1000 for now, I'm probabily just under £900 at the moment.

Stulid, I thought I would go for the Seasonic X-650 since it has the gold rating and I'm sure it will last me for the next couple of upgrades too .

Cat, I trust what you say so If asus is better and less power hungry then i don't see why not!

Again, Many thanks to everyone