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read another article on the other tax ecos loophole - heart bleeds


“If they don’t, a ban might be a good thing, since 99% of the people I deal with haven’t a clue what it costs to pay for your own car. They should know what it’s like for those people who do.”


Why the ECOS isn't as good a deal as it seems​


The prospect of a new car every six months on terms significantly better than anyone outside the car industry can enjoy sounds great, doesn’t it? Not according to one manufacturer employee in receipt of the benefit.


The employee, who asked not to be identified, has a 1.0-litre hatchback on his firm’s ECOS that costs him just £85 per month. He pays no benefit-in-kind tax or national insurance contributions on it and it’s replaced every six months.


However, he says there are strict limits as to which model he can order and with which options, and even then, his order can be overruled by the factory and a different specification from the one he requested supplied. He must pay an excess mileage charge if he does more than 6000 miles in the car and any damage it suffers must be repaired by a manufacturer-approved garage whose prices, he says, tend to be higher than elsewhere.


If he puts the car through a car wash, any swirl marks must be polished out at a cost of £80, and a chipped windscreen must be replaced, not repaired.



“The scheme is great in the sense that the car is cheap, and unless I damage the car, I don’t have to budget for new tyres or servicing,” the employee said.


“The downsides are that it’s quite inflexible and the higher refurbishment and repair costs put many employees with families off the scheme, because of the damage their kids might do to the car’s interior.
 

The number of US-style pickup trucks on UK roads has almost doubled in the past 10 years, data shows.

The vehicles are more environmentally damaging than ordinary cars, and more dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists. Campaigners have said the extra-large vehicles, which are often too big for UK streets and parking spaces, are built like “battering rams”.

Analysis by Clean Cities of Department for Transport data has found that registrations of the most commonly sold pickup trucks have risen by 92% in just over a decade, with close to 600,000 (590,587) now on UK roads, compared with 308,103 in 2014.
 
A lot of newer models have 360 camera and sensors partly due to the issue though that won't help in terms of injury location in an impact. I find people get overly triggered by them than the reality - mine, and goes for many models, for example is no wider than many modern cars, narrower than some but I still get people moaning about its width in parking spaces despite it often being narrower than the car they drive.
 
I'd love RAM 1500 SRT if they sold them here. Supercharged Hemi? Yes please.
They look the business.
 
I know someone that leased some high end pickup thinking he was going to look the adventure type, take up surfing and what have you. He ended up paying 9 grand just to get out of the term early, it was that bad.

Tax benefits aside, I don't get the obsession.
My parents have a pretty new Ford Ranger, to their great regret (they have a smallholding in the highlands so it is used for lugging stuff around). The sump in particular is made of something approaching the structural integrity of tissue paper. If it gets salt on it, it just rots through. Think they are on the *fourth* sump now. Injectors fail on an almost annual basis.

They are absolute piles of junk.

So next time you see some pillock driving around town in an absolutely spotless, massive Ranger, know that they are having a miserable time, and the reason it's clean is because it's probably just out of the garage (again).
 
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My parents have a pretty new Ford Ranger, to their great regret (they have a smallholding in the highlands so it is used for lugging stuff around). The sump in particular is made of something approaching the structural integrity of tissue paper. If it gets salt on it, it just rots through. Think they are on the *fourth* sump now. Injectors fail on an almost annual basis.

They are absolute piles of junk.

So next time you see some pillock driving around town in an absolutely spotless, massive Ranger, know that they are having a miserable time, and the reason it's clean is because it's probably just out of the garage (again).

Ranger is nice for towing but I wouldn't touch one personally, the injectors seem to be quite an issue on some of them. Sadly the new Amarok is using the Ford platform.

It always amuses me how polarising pickups are.
 
My parents have a pretty new Ford Ranger, to their great regret (they have a smallholding in the highlands so it is used for lugging stuff around). The sump in particular is made of something approaching the structural integrity of tissue paper. If it gets salt on it, it just rots through. Think they are on the *fourth* sump now. Injectors fail on an almost annual basis.

They are absolute piles of junk.

So next time you see some pillock driving around town in an absolutely spotless, massive Ranger, know that they are having a miserable time, and the reason it's clean is because it's probably just out of the garage (again).

For balance, I’m currently running the family Ranger Wildtrack as my winter hack. They’ve had it from new (2018) and haven’t had any issues whatsoever. I’ve run it throughout the biblical snow we’ve had recently (Scotland) and now through the torrential rain and flooding. It’s been flawless, plus it’s comfortable, spacious and handles the school run perfectly.

It doesn’t handle like my M3 obvs, but I think it’s great. We’ve had all manner of trucks and 4x4s over the years, including a Hi-Lux, Landcruiser, 2x Defenders and 4x Range Rovers. The Ranger gets a thumbs up from me.
 
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It doesn’t handle like my M3 obvs, but I think it’s great. We’ve had all manner of trucks and 4x4s over the years, including a Hi-Lux, Landcruiser, 2x Defenders and 4x Range Rovers. The Ranger gets a thumbs up from me.

Personally quite enjoy the more truck like handling though it isn't for everyone and a much better experience if paired up with a decent 3+L V6 (or bigger but personally I'm happy with a V6). All these newer 2.xL 4 pot pickups make me sad. The Ranger is a way better experience if using on the road regularly than the Hilux and similar but no one around me (rural Somerset) buys Rangers - mostly Hilux or L200 for a workhorse or Amarok or Navara (not so much any more) for the road.
 
I’m running the 3.2l 5-pot. It’s no Audi Quattro, but it sounds good (for a diesel) and goes well. I’m aware all the new stuff are only 2l 4-bangers… a sad sign of the times.

When I lived in the US I had a V8 F150 and it was insane, but perfectly acceptable for popping to the shops.
 
but it sounds good (for a diesel) and goes well

I'm definitely missing the 3L V6 from my Navara (not really using it any more as 1-2 issues not worth spending money on fixing with the state of the chassis) it sounded really good for a diesel and had decent amount of power.
 
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