HP 7600 SFF possible upgrade?

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I have a HP DC7600 3.0ghz HT at the minute, it's getting slow and ideally I'd like to replace it with the 8000 Elite E8400, but no one is selling one for anything like sensible money

Keeping my current case, which is suited to my setup, how far can I upgrade it?

All my memory slots are taken, and a friend suggested replacing the mobo, but it's a specific HP case and won't accept a standard mobo, will it?

Thanks
 
Have a look at this and there's a link on there with a lot of information in it. Whether it's useful or not is a different matter, but it's worth a look :)
 
Thanks for that, yes I have done a complete reinstall from fresh, and to be fair it was a bit quicker than previously. But with my new camera and file sizes up to 7mb it's really laggy, plus I'd quite like Windows 7

I will download tomorrow and post results then :)
 
You could stick in extra RAM and see a nice little boost. Windows 7 would complete the job but don't buy from Hp ;)
 
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You could replace the motherboard with a mini itx board. They're only 170mm x 170mm if i remember. But then thats a new CPU and RAM as well...
 
Here's a trimmed version of the blurb from Speccy:

Summary
Operating System
MS Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3
CPU
Intel Pentium 4 630
Intel Pentium 4 630
Prescott 90nm Technology
RAM
2.5GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 265MHz (4-4-4-12)
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 09F8h (XU1 PROCESSOR) 42 °C
Graphics
HP w2007 (1680x1050@60Hz)
Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Hard Drives
156GB Western Digital WDC WD1600JS-00MHB0 (SATA) 22 °C
Optical Drives
HP DVD Writer 1040d
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
WDC WD1600JS-00MHB0
CPU
Intel Pentium 4 630
Cores 1
Threads 2
Name Intel Pentium 4 630
Code Name Prescott
Package Socket 775 LGA
Technology 90nm
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Family F
Extended Family F
Model 4
Extended Model 4
Stepping A
Revision R0
Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, Intel 64
Virtualization Unsupported
Hyperthreading Supported, Enabled
Fan Speed 1910 RPM
Bus Speed 199.4 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 797.5 MHz
Stock Core Speed 3000 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 200 MHz
Caches
L1 Data Cache Size 16 KBytes
L1 trace cache 12 Kuops
L2 Unified Cache Size 2048 KBytes
Core 0
Core Speed 2990.5 MHz
Multiplier x 15.0
Bus Speed 199.4 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 797.5 MHz
Thread 1
APIC ID 0
Thread 2
APIC ID 1
RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 5
Used memory slots 5
Free memory slots 0
Memory
Type DDR2
Size 2560 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 265.8 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 4 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 12 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 16 clocks
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 39 %
Total Physical 2.49 GB
Available Physical 1.52 GB
Total Virtual 1.99 GB
Available Virtual 1.90 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 4
Slot #1
Type DDR2
Size 1024 MBytes
Manufacturer Kingston
Max Bandwidth PC2-4300 (266 MHz)
Part Number 9905399-003.A00LF
Serial Number 3522E887
Week/year 33 / 07
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #3
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 12
tRC 16
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 4.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 12
tRC 16
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 200.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 3.0
RAS# To CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
tRAS 9
tRC 12
Voltage 1.800 V
Slot #2
Type DDR2
Size 256 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Max Bandwidth PC2-4300 (266 MHz)
Part Number M3 78T3354CZ3-CD5
Serial Number F5358F0A
Week/year 33 / 06
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #3
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 11
tRC 15
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 4.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 11
tRC 15
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 200.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 3.0
RAS# To CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
tRAS 8
tRC 11
Voltage 1.800 V
Slot #3
Type DDR2
Size 1024 MBytes
Manufacturer Kingston
Max Bandwidth PC2-4300 (266 MHz)
Part Number 9905399-003.A00LF
Serial Number 3522E787
Week/year 33 / 07
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #3
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 12
tRC 16
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 4.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 12
tRC 16
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 200.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 3.0
RAS# To CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
tRAS 9
tRC 12
Voltage 1.800 V
Slot #4
Type DDR2
Size 256 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Max Bandwidth PC2-4300 (266 MHz)
Part Number M3 78T3354CZ3-CD5
Serial Number F5358E5F
Week/year 33 / 06
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #3
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 11
tRC 15
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 4.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 11
tRC 15
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 200.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 3.0
RAS# To CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
tRAS 8
tRC 11
Voltage 1.800 V
Motherboard
Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
Model 09F8h
Chipset Vendor Intel
Chipset Model i945P/PL/G/GZ
Chipset Revision A2
Southbridge Vendor Intel
Southbridge Model 82801GB (ICH7/R)
Southbridge Revision A1
System Temperature 42 °C
BIOS
Brand Hewlett-Packard
Version 786D1 v01.03
Date 05/18/2005
PCI Data
1. PCI Available
2. PCI Available
3. PCI Available
4. PCI Available
Graphics
Monitor
Name HP w2007 on Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family
Current Resolution 1680x1050 pixels
Work Resolution 1680x1020 pixels
State enabled, primary, output devices support
Monitor Width 1680
Monitor Height 1050
Monitor BPP 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Frequency 60 Hz
Device \\.\DISPLAY1\Monitor0
Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Memory 128 MB
Memory type 2
Driver version 6.14.10.4396
Hard Drives
WDC WD1600JS-00MHB0
Manufacturer Western Digital
Heads 16
Cylinders 16383
SATA type SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
Device type Fixed
ATA Standard ATA/ATAPI-7
48-bit LBA Supported
Serial Number WD-WCANKL045934
Interface SATA
Capacity 156GB
Real size 160,041,885,696 bytes
S.M.A.R.T
01 Read Error Rate 200 (200 worst) Data 0000000000
03 Spin-Up Time 187 (184) Data 00000015E8
04 Start/Stop Count 099 (099) Data 00000007C6
05 Reallocated Sectors Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
07 Seek Error Rate 200 (200) Data 0000000000
09 Power-On Hours (POH) 096 (096) Data 0000000D28
0A Spin Retry Count 100 (100) Data 0000000000
0B Recalibration Retries 100 (100) Data 0000000000
0C Device Power Cycle Count 099 (099) Data 00000007C6
BE Temperature Difference from 100 078 (039) Data 0000000016
C2 Temperature 128 (089) Data 0000000016
C4 Reallocation Event Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
C5 Current Pending Sector Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
C6 Uncorrectable Sector Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
C7 UltraDMA CRC Error Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
C8 Write Error Rate / Multi-Zone Error Rate 200 (200) Data 0000000000
Temperature 22 °C
Temperature Range ok (less than 50 °C)
Status Good
Partition 0
Partition ID Disk #0, Partition #0
Disk Letter C:
File System NTFS
Volume Serial Number 18D88D0D
Size 149GB
Used Space 29.9GB (21%)
Free Space 119GB (79%)
 
You could look for a second hand socket 775 dual core chip which would give you a nice speed boost. Bear in mind if you do this you might need to update the BIOS. The latest BIOS for your system is here. You have 2.5GB of RAM which is loads for XP :)
 
Afaik the 7600 supports Pentium D CPUs at a maximum. These are barely better than a 3GHz P4 imo. A fresh install, even 7 and 2GB RAM will make a world off difference if you have had the install for a while.
 
Thanks for the replies!

Can you tell me how much faster a E5300 2.6Ghz would be than my current machine? Is it worth the upgrade to this box, instead of putting money in to replacing the chip in my current machine?

Thanks
 
Pentium Ds are 2x P4s on the same die. I still have an 820 lying around and I can remember the noise and heat it made.
The Core Duo's are much better.
You will have to take this with a pinch of salt, but have a look here:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/66?vs=92
The P4 in this test is @ 3.6 (Quicker than yours) and the E5200 has simular specs as the 5300. So you can kind of see there should be a big difference.
 
R088ieS86 said:
Pentium Ds are 2x P4s on the same die. I still have an 820 lying around and I can remember the noise and heat it made.
The Core Duo's are much better.
You will have to take this with a pinch of salt, but have a look here:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/66?vs=92
The P4 in this test is @ 3.6 (Quicker than yours) and the E5200 has simular specs as the 5300. So you can kind of see there should be a big difference.
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Thanks for the links and advice :)
 
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