HP LP2475w

Craig321

Craig321

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I've been after a 24" screen with a decent panel for a while now (ie IPS).

I've had a DGM with a TN panel for a while now which has got me by, but it's far from perfect. Viewing angles are really bad and the colours probably aren't up to scratch (I've got nothing to compare it to). On top of that it has a shiny panel which can get annoying when it's sunny.

So, I've been looking at the LP2475w with the H-IPS screen which seems to be one of the best (the best?) 24" on the market at the moment.

If I was to spend all that money on the screen would it be worth getting it calibrated properly? Would I need something to help calibrate it properly or could I simply get the 'perfect' settings from the internet?

I'm open to recommendations for other screens, but would like to stick with (H-)IPS

Thanks,
Craig.
 
I think you are meant to calibrate yourself as no screeens are the same (bit like CPU's) but I got one and set the settings to those they used in the review on TFTcentral and its great, worked for me
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As said calibrating yourself is the only exact way however using tftcentral's calibrated profiles gives better results than the monitor out of the box.

Depends how important colour accuracy is to you. If it is very important then no choice but to buy a hardware calibrating tool.

As for the choice of screen, it is indeed a very good one and I almost bought one myself.

The things that put me off a bit was the thread on here and elsewhere on the internet about lots of "pink" colour tint problems which varies between screens.

I have seen people go through 4 screens before being happy with it but its still there. There has also being issues with input lag.

A shame really as if it wasn;t for these issue it would be the best 24" screen.

For these reasons and since I game as well I bought the 24WMGX3 instead.
 
Greebo said:
As said calibrating yourself is the only exact way however using tftcentral's calibrated profiles gives better results than the monitor out of the box.

Depends how important colour accuracy is to you. If it is very important then no choice but to buy a hardware calibrating tool.

As for the choice of screen, it is indeed a very good one and I almost bought one myself.

The things that put me off a bit was the thread on here and elsewhere on the internet about lots of "pink" colour tint problems which varies between screens.

I have seen people go through 4 screens before being happy with it but its still there. There has also being issues with input lag.

A shame really as if it wasn;t for these issue it would be the best 24" screen.

For these reasons and since I game as well I bought the 24WMGX3 instead.
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I've seen a few screens come with a slight pink tint, they've all been sorted by calibrating them. I guess that's not the case with the HP LP2475w?

Only thing that puts me off the NEC 24WMGX3 is the MVA panel. I'm not saying they're rubbish or anything, I just thought H-IPS would be better?

Craig.
 
Craig321 said:
Only thing that puts me off the NEC 24WMGX3 is the MVA panel. I'm not saying they're rubbish or anything, I just thought H-IPS would be better?
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From what I've heard that is the case in terms of graphical/image quality, albeit only marginally, but from a gaming point of view the input lag leans most people towards the VA screens.
 
manic111 said:
From what I've heard that is the case in terms of graphical/image quality, albeit only marginally, but from a gaming point of view the input lag leans most people towards the VA screens.
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I heard the HPL2475 is one of the best at response times (for an IPS panel) as it uses the new H-IPS? I guess I'll need to check out some reviews/videos for that.
 
read the review I linked to earlier, its very through and compares it against others incl the NEC if I remember right
I believe the pink tinge thing was on a few of the earlier models and its been retified, not 100% sure tbh but mine is certainly fine (no pinkness) and was one of best purchases Ive made
 
Lag isn't really an issue at 20ms, I've certainly had no problems at that level. Pink tint is an issue that in most cases resolves after the backlight has burnt in properly (circa 100 hours). As for calibration, the most recent Spyder does it as apparently the Lacie Blue Eye Pro isn't wide-gamut compatible.
 
philjohn said:
Lag isn't really an issue at 20ms, I've certainly had no problems at that level. Pink tint is an issue that in most cases resolves after the backlight has burnt in properly (circa 100 hours). As for calibration, the most recent Spyder does it as apparently the Lacie Blue Eye Pro isn't wide-gamut compatible.
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The Spyder is quite pricey, but tempting to buy. I'm guessing it'd be worth it in the long run as it'd be able to calibrate any screen I buy in the future?
 
philjohn said:
Lag isn't really an issue at 20ms, I've certainly had no problems at that level. Pink tint is an issue that in most cases resolves after the backlight has burnt in properly (circa 100 hours). As for calibration, the most recent Spyder does it as apparently the Lacie Blue Eye Pro isn't wide-gamut compatible.
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As I game competetively, I can honestly say there is a vast difference between 0ms, 10+ms and 20+ms input lag... most people will say "Oh, you're full of ****, no human will be able to tell the difference", but I kid you not, there really is a very very big difference for me. playing fast FPS games on a monitor with 20+ms input lag for me is unacceptable.
 
doiks14 said:
As I game competetively, I can honestly say there is a vast difference between 0ms, 10+ms and 20+ms input lag... most people will say "Oh, you're full of ****, no human will be able to tell the difference", but I kid you not, there really is a very very big difference for me. playing fast FPS games on a monitor with 20+ms input lag for me is unacceptable.
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Fair enough, for competetive gaming it is important, but for the other 99.9% of us, 20ms is more than adequate and quite competetive in the 24" arena.
 
doiks14 said:
As I game competetively, I can honestly say there is a vast difference between 0ms, 10+ms and 20+ms input lag... most people will say "Oh, you're full of ****, no human will be able to tell the difference", but I kid you not, there really is a very very big difference for me. playing fast FPS games on a monitor with 20+ms input lag for me is unacceptable.
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Yeah, it really affects 1 on 1 fighters, where you need to pull off moves almost fame perfect, for best results.
 
What are you thinking of as an alternative to solve this? Because having just re-read the review this is still an impressive figure for this class of monitor, only beaten by a couple others, all the rest trail behind in this respect
your only real option would be to stick with CRT???
 
I never play online due to rubbish internet, and when I do I hardly play competitively, I doubt 8ms or 20ms would effect me in the slightest?

As long as I don't see physical ghosting and the slower response time doesn't cause me to lose against bots then I can't really see the response time being a problem.
 
It's noticeable. I've gotten a bit worse at all the games I play because of input lag. Although this is bearable. For now, I am just waiting until I can get a DisplayPort video card and then wave goodbye to input lag!
 
I've just had a look at some more reviews (and re-read the tftcentral review) and the input lag really isn't that bad when comparing it to other popular screens.

The Dell 2408WFP was really popular on these forums and it has a maximum of 64MS input lag (that's 24MS more than the maximum of the LP2475W).

My only worry now is the fact that one of the cons given on tftcentral is poor default colour accuracy. If I'm spending £400 on a monitor then obviously I want it to be as good as possible. Saying that though I'm sure the colours will be a lot better than my current 24" TN DGM.

Maybe I should invest in a calibrator. Expensive though :(

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Will DisplayPort help with input lag when it gets 'properly released'?
 
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