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Sure - I need to buy new really, it's a for a birthday.
HP Omen 17 - thoughts?
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So ended up getting the Omen 17 and first impressions are very good. It runs really well and is a lot cooler and quieter than the ASUS A17. I already had occasion to test the HP support as on day 2, the laptop decided to 'unsee' the graphics card. It looks like one of the updates resulted in an issue with the PCI driver...but got straight through to HP support on live chat, shared screen and sorted the issue in 5 mins. Quite impressive.
Anyway - pretty happy so far. Nice machine.
Anyway - pretty happy so far. Nice machine.
Or get the XMG equivalent that comes with a 2 year warranty and the same boost properties as the Eluktronics.
very good, its with the 2070? what CPU have you got?
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Yeah, the 2070 - it's the i9750H which is not as modern as I would have liked but seems to do the job very well and is running cool (for a laptop)
looks to be the same as mine so, 9750H with 512GB M2 Drive and 1TB SATA, 16GB Ram, All of them parts can be upgraded also which is nice if you need even more power
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Can you upgrade the CPU?
i dont know, if its soldered to the main board obv not - if its in a socket i dont see why not, but actually getting a better cpu than what is on could be a problem. Intel mobile CPUs seem hard to get.
These all have the same socket so in theory should work
Specifications Steppings
Model / Part Cores Threads Frequency Turbo
Frequency L2
Cache L3
Cache TDP R0 U0
Xeon E-2176M 6 12 2.7 GHz 4.4 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 45W +
Xeon E-2186M 6 12 2.9 GHz 4.8 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 45W +
Xeon E-2254ME 4 8 2.6 GHz 3.8 GHz 1MB 8MB 45W +
Xeon E-2254ML 4 8 1.7 GHz 3.5 GHz 1MB 8MB 25W +
Xeon E-2276M 6 12 2.8 GHz 4.7 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 45W +
Xeon E-2276ME 6 12 2.8 GHz 4.5 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 45W +
Xeon E-2276ML 6 12 2 GHz 4.2 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 25W +
Xeon E-2286M 8 16 2.4 GHz 5 GHz 2MB 16MB 45W +
Celeron G4930E 2 2 2.4 GHz 512KB 2MB 35W +
Celeron G4932E 2 2 1.9 GHz 512KB 2MB 25W +
Pentium G5600E 2 2 2.6 GHz 3.1 GHz 512KB 4MB 35W +
Core i3-8100B 4 4 3.6 GHz 1MB 6MB 65W +
Core i3-8100H 4 4 3 GHz 1MB 6MB 45W +
Core i3-9100HL 4 4 1.6 GHz 2.9 GHz 1MB 6MB 25W +
Core i5-8300H 4 8 2.3 GHz 4 GHz 1MB 8MB 45W +
Core i5-8400B 6 6 2.8 GHz 4 GHz 1.5MB 9MB 65W +
Core i5-8400H 4 8 2.5 GHz 4.2 GHz 1MB 8MB 45W +
Core i5-8500B 6 6 3 GHz 4.1 GHz 1.5MB 9MB 65W +
Core i5-9300H 4 8 2.4 GHz 4.1 GHz 1MB 8MB 45W + +
Core i5-9400H 4 8 2.5 GHz 4.3 GHz 1MB 8MB 45W +
Core i7-8700B 6 12 3.2 GHz 4.6 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 65W +
Core i7-8750H 6 12 2.2 GHz 4.1 GHz 1.5MB 9MB 45W +
Core i7-8850H 6 12 2.6 GHz 4.3 GHz 1.5MB 9MB 45W +
Core i7-9750H 6 12 2.6 GHz 4.5 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 45W + +
Core i7-9750HF 6 12 2.6 GHz 4.5 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 45W +
Core i7-9850H 6 12 2.6 GHz 4.6 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 45W +
Core i7-9850HE 6 12 2.7 GHz 4.4 GHz 1.5MB 9MB 45W +
Core i7-9850HL 6 12 1.9 GHz 4.1 GHz 1.5MB 9MB 25W +
Core i9-8950HK 6 12 2.9 GHz 4.8 GHz 1.5MB 12MB 45W +
Core i9-9880H 8 16 2.3 GHz 4.8 GHz 2MB 16MB 45W +
Core i9-9980HK 8 16 2.4 GHz 5 GHz 2MB 16MB 45W +
My brother was looking at the HP Omen 17-cb1001na at £1,499 (although I think another store does it for £1,399 currently) and asked what I thought. I don't know much about Nvidia cards. Is the 2060 RTX good enough or should he really go for the 2070 RTX? Seems a big jump in price that was all. Any advice? Cheers.
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Like the vast majority of Intel laptops these days, the Omen 17 is soldered so no CPU replacement unfortunately.
The rather GOOD/great thing however is that the HP Omen 17s virtually always use the full Max-P variant of whatever graphics card you go for, meaning you get the performance you expect (albeit with the heat and power). They're also often the cheapest of the large manufacturers to get that Max-P chip, although they don't usually include the occasional tweaked/hardware modded TDPs some of the more expensive machines get. (ie my 2080 Max-P is a proper 150W job, and not the modified 180/190/200W some of the £3500 laptops had...but as I paid £2125 new with 3 year warranty...)
I have the 2080 Max-P in my Omen 17 and overclocked its performing essentially like a 2070 Super desktop card. Not bad really!
My only caveat is they don't always get the cooling design perfect; my machine does struggle a little on performance mode with auto fans if the GPU is at full whack and my 9880H at 90W is at full/high load, as they decided to share a heat pipe between the CPU and GPU. This all being said, this is my second HP Omen 17, and I'd get another. If I didn't unlock my CPU to the full 90W, and allowed the turbo power limits to kick in, it'd no doubt also run a decent chunk cooler, and I still have the options of tweaking the 8 core multiplier or putting the fans to max.
Either way, compared to anything else similarly specced with a proper Max P GPU and not a neutered Max-Q, the HP Omen was MUCH better value, and the 3 year warranty upgrade is very good value, and well worth it on an expensive machine (usually costs around £100).
Due to the lower power consumption though, I'd suggest the Max-P 2070 and 9750H would probably run very nicely in this chassis; I am after all running my machine harder, with a higher wattage, larger GPU, more CPU cores, and with de-restricted power limits compared to out the box.
@Firegod, if he can go from it and wants to buy now, and wants to keep this machine for a few years, I'd suggest he does consider looking at the 2070 (or the super model as it is now). Despite being Max-P, the laptop versions of the chips are closer to the previous tier desktop card, my overclocked 2080 Max-P is performing about on par with a desktop 2070 Super, so fairly close to the desktop 2080 but not quite there, and part of that closeness is the little extra bump from my OC.
A 2070 Max P will be about 2060-2070 level, a 2070 Super laptop Max P will be about 2070 desktop level etc etc.
Of course if he doesn't need the power and its £200 plus for the upgrade and there are no OTHER upgrades included (RAM, PSU, SSD, Screen etc), then he may be better saving that cash for his next upgrade.
The MaxQ versions are considerably worse, so looking at these machines with Max P is a good shout!
The rather GOOD/great thing however is that the HP Omen 17s virtually always use the full Max-P variant of whatever graphics card you go for, meaning you get the performance you expect (albeit with the heat and power). They're also often the cheapest of the large manufacturers to get that Max-P chip, although they don't usually include the occasional tweaked/hardware modded TDPs some of the more expensive machines get. (ie my 2080 Max-P is a proper 150W job, and not the modified 180/190/200W some of the £3500 laptops had...but as I paid £2125 new with 3 year warranty...)
I have the 2080 Max-P in my Omen 17 and overclocked its performing essentially like a 2070 Super desktop card. Not bad really!
My only caveat is they don't always get the cooling design perfect; my machine does struggle a little on performance mode with auto fans if the GPU is at full whack and my 9880H at 90W is at full/high load, as they decided to share a heat pipe between the CPU and GPU. This all being said, this is my second HP Omen 17, and I'd get another. If I didn't unlock my CPU to the full 90W, and allowed the turbo power limits to kick in, it'd no doubt also run a decent chunk cooler, and I still have the options of tweaking the 8 core multiplier or putting the fans to max.
Either way, compared to anything else similarly specced with a proper Max P GPU and not a neutered Max-Q, the HP Omen was MUCH better value, and the 3 year warranty upgrade is very good value, and well worth it on an expensive machine (usually costs around £100).
Due to the lower power consumption though, I'd suggest the Max-P 2070 and 9750H would probably run very nicely in this chassis; I am after all running my machine harder, with a higher wattage, larger GPU, more CPU cores, and with de-restricted power limits compared to out the box.
@Firegod, if he can go from it and wants to buy now, and wants to keep this machine for a few years, I'd suggest he does consider looking at the 2070 (or the super model as it is now). Despite being Max-P, the laptop versions of the chips are closer to the previous tier desktop card, my overclocked 2080 Max-P is performing about on par with a desktop 2070 Super, so fairly close to the desktop 2080 but not quite there, and part of that closeness is the little extra bump from my OC.
A 2070 Max P will be about 2060-2070 level, a 2070 Super laptop Max P will be about 2070 desktop level etc etc.
Of course if he doesn't need the power and its £200 plus for the upgrade and there are no OTHER upgrades included (RAM, PSU, SSD, Screen etc), then he may be better saving that cash for his next upgrade.
The MaxQ versions are considerably worse, so looking at these machines with Max P is a good shout!
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Groovy thanks very much. I've passed all that info on to him. Cheers
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No worries, HP's support can be a little slow/foreign call center, but I would still heartily recommend looking at the extended warranties if he gets one. £100 extra for 3 years for a high end gaming laptop is definately worth it considering how toasty these can run and how much they push the bar for the form factor in terms of power consumption etc 
My machine in signature is the CB002NA with an OC on the GPU.
The Firestrike and Timespy scores say it all though Better than any MaxQ machine!
My machine in signature is the CB002NA with an OC on the GPU.
The Firestrike and Timespy scores say it all though
Better than any MaxQ machine!