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HUB: Intel 13700K vs AMD 7800X3D

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Hardware Unboxed gaming CPU comparison.

Its changed somewhat since the initial review with more games now using the 3D Cache the result are better than those initial reviews.

Being priced quite similar here, on the day of posting this, £400 for the 13700K and £429 for the 7800X3D, the results are quite surprising, 11% overall but quite a few games where the 7800X3D is 15% or more faster.

The 13700K also use quite a lot more power, no really, this is total system consumption with a 4090 so for a CPU to use over 100 watts more power in these games is quite staggering, the 13700K is using 2X to 3X more power than the 7800X3D while gaming, the most was 196 watt more, with todays electricity prices you will notice that.

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No surprise at all really and yes out of the box for gaming, I'd go with the 7800X3D but if you're into overclocking/tuning I'd go with the 13700K, especially like me if you do more than just gaming and use a lot of single threaded (or even fully Multithreaded) tasks. I've got both of them sat here next me so have tested them for myself. ;)
 
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The 13700k has far better MT and lower idle power usage while gaming perf is similar for the most part especially above 1080p so I’d say overall it’s the better chip unless you exclusively game at low resolution with a high power card.
 
i have the 13700 but only because i got a fantastic deal on a used bundle.

it runs fairly hot and eats power more than AMD but i have watercooling and solar pannels so game when the sun shines lol
 
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I have the 13700 but I bought when DDR5 was super-expensive and the 7800X3D wasn't out. HUB's results were entirely expected (by me) and great to see. I wonder how the refreshed Intel CPUs will compete? It's game on!
 
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MartinPrince said:
No surprise at all really and yes out of the box for gaming, I'd go with the 7800X3D but if you're into overclocking/tuning I'd go with the 13700K, especially like me if you do more than just gaming and use a lot of single threaded (or even fully Multithreaded) tasks. I've got both of them sat here next me so have tested them for myself. ;)
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Pretty rare that anyone is playing around with hardware to that degree now though, in fairness.

I loved tweaking hardware and have a long history of it, oc'ing and pencil tricks on Durons and lord knows what else. But at this point for most users it's just not worth the hassle for what you get out of it, I remember buying a 3570K and slapping on an immediate and super easy OC to push 4.6ghz being the last time I really bothered.

It feels like that side of the hobby is dead outside of a handful of hardcore types, which is a crying shame tbh. We used to do it to make cheaper hardware perform way above its value, but its been monetised to the point very few should bother given what's on offer.
 
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Gray2233 said:
Pretty rare that anyone is playing around with hardware to that degree now though, in fairness.

I loved tweaking hardware and have a long history of it, oc'ing and pencil tricks on Durons and lord knows what else. But at this point for most users it's just not worth the hassle for what you get out of it, I remember buying a 3570K and slapping on an immediate and super easy OC to push 4.6ghz being the last time I really bothered.

It feels like that side of the hobby is dead outside of a handful of hardcore types, which is a crying shame tbh. We used to do it to make cheaper hardware perform way above its value, but its been monetised to the point very few should bother given what's on offer.
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Yes true, we are a dying breed but there are still a few of us still alive and kicking. ;)

Though even without tuning as @Joxeon said, the 13700K is a better overall system for those that don't just solely game and regularly use their PC's for a variety of other tasks. I love the efficiency of the 7800X3D though and it clearly the way to go for future CPU's. AMD has done a stellar job in this regard which Intel need to sit up and pay attention to.
 
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Yes true, we are a dying breed but there are still a few of us still alive and kicking. ;)

Though even without tuning as @Joxeon said, the 13700K is a better overall system for those that don't just solely game and regularly use their PC's for a variety of other tasks. I love the efficiency of the 7800X3D though and it clearly the way to go for future CPU's. AMD has done a stellar job in this regard which Intel need to sit up and pay attention to.
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I do agree, I think the am5 platform is the selling point more than anything as we know there's another generation or two of hardware coming for it.

If I was buying now and refreshed my system every other generation I'd pick up a 13700 variant.
 
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random_matt said:
Well, Intel sucks without high power usage. The 7800X3D was not out when I bought 13700KF, wish it were though.
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Well I've got my 13700K pretty well overclocked to 6.2Ghz boost and 5.8Ghz all core and during CPU intensive gaming I'm using max ~145W which is the same as my overclocked 9700K was using, so in the great scheme of things not too bad. (I have HT turned off and E-Cores on which is what you really should do if gaming on a 13700K)

On average across the games I play and tested I'm using 60-70W more than my 7800X3D when gaming at 1440p.
 
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I do agree, I think the am5 platform is the selling point more than anything as we know there's another generation or two of hardware coming for it.
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Isn’t intel rumoured to be getting another cpu on the LGA1700?
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I love the efficiency of the 7800X3D though and it clearly the way to go for future CPU's. AMD has done a stellar job in this regard which Intel need to sit up and pay attention to.
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would be interesting to see the power difference if intel were on TSMC 5nm as everyone thought AMDs gpu architecture was much more efficient than Nvidia when they had the node advantage but then when Nvidia jumped to the superior node the tables turned quite dramatically.
 
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Isn’t intel rumoured to be getting another cpu on the LGA1700?
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Historically Intel releases in an A and then B fashion, new architecture and then a refresh of that using the same platform. So the "new CPU" is generally just the same thing but a little more efficient, absolutely nothing worth upgrading to in most cases.

It's almost entirely artificial, there's many instances where people have modded bios' on old motherboards to run newer Intel chips that apparently needed a new platform.

It's plausible, but I'll believe it when I see it.
 
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Gray2233 said:
I do agree, I think the am5 platform is the selling point more than anything as we know there's another generation or two of hardware coming for it.

If I was buying now and refreshed my system every other generation I'd pick up a 13700 variant.
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Yep, though I have a sneaky suspicion that as AMD mentioned up to 2025 for support for AM5 that they will only give us really one more 'real' generation i.e. 8800X and 8800X3D. I think the difference in performance between a 7800X3D and 8800X3D will again be say ~20% so not enough difference for most people to upgrade, which will take us to 9900X3D which will be on a new socket and need a new motherboard.

I hope I'm wrong but with what AMD tried to pull with AM4 (trying to drop support for B450 etc) and the fact that they don't need to give us consumers any more 'freebies' as they now more than compete with Intel, then I'm not going to be hoodwinked into thinking AM5 will have anywhere near the same longevity that AM4 had.
 
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Joxeon said:
Isn’t intel rumoured to be getting another cpu on the LGA1700?

would be interesting to see the power difference if intel were on TSMC 5nm as everyone thought AMDs gpu architecture was much more efficient than Nvidia when they had the node advantage but then when Nvidia jumped to the superior node the tables turned quite dramatically.
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Maybe. I'll wait and see but it could be just a money grab and offer no real benefit, like what they did with 11th Gen.

We'll see if Intel are able to close the power usage disparity but at the moment it is making them look bad and perception often matters more than details. The detailed fact is that if I game for 4 hours every single day my average difference of 70w would cost me on my tariff £20.44 extra per year. (For those on the latest price cap then that would be £30.66)

So that difference isn't really going to come into the reckoning when I'm looking to get the fastest overall CPU for my usage. Though many will just see the "2X power usage" headlines and think they will be saving enough on electricity to pay for the CPU itself in a year. :)

BTW, my 7800X3D uses exactly twice as much idle power as my 13700K so folks also might want to take that into account.
 
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I would go for the 13700k if i could had to upgrade now which i wouldn't but only because i have a Z690 board and swapping everything out would be a farce.
 
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humbug said:
Hardware Unboxed gaming CPU comparison.

Its changed somewhat since the initial review with more games now using the 3D Cache the result are better than those initial reviews.

Being priced quite similar here, on the day of posting this, £400 for the 13700K and £429 for the 7800X3D, the results are quite surprising, 11% overall but quite a few games where the 7800X3D is 15% or more faster.

The 13700K also use quite a lot more power, no really, this is total system consumption with a 4090 so for a CPU to use over 100 watts more power in these games is quite staggering, the 13700K is using 2X to 3X more power than the 7800X3D while gaming, the most was 196 watt more, with todays electricity prices you will notice that.

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It’s interesting how much the gap has opened up since launch. 15-20% is essentially a free GPU upgrade compared to the 13700K. Not bad for £25
 
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