Hugh's Fish Fight.

[doofer]

Why are the fish dead when they haul them in? Or do they die in the process of waiting to process them?

When certain types of fish are brought up from depth too fast their Swim Bladders expand so much they kill the fish, think of it as your lungs being inflated so much they will be ejected out of your mouth.

 

[coopersim]

Not wanting to sound soft, does this hurt them?

 

[doofer]

Not wanting to sound soft, does this hurt them?

Probably. They have a different nervous system to us though so how painful if any pain at all is anyone's guess.

 

[Mercutio]

So what happens when the EU ups the amount they are able to land? "Oh look, now we go after a few more fish there's these 10 extra baskets of Cod we're going to have to throw away" and thus it continues.

As poor as it looks this IS the only way to stop muppet fishermen fishing up everything that moves for pure profits.

 

[Glaucus]

It's not the only wat, you limit days at sea with harsh discard penalties.

 

[Tefal]

As poor as it looks this IS the only way to stop teladi fishermen fishing up everything that moves for pure profitsssssssssss.

Fixed.

 

[Will Gill]

Best way is to have limited days at sea, I'm sure you have seen Deadliest Catch, they have a limited window to fill their boots.

There are problems associated with this method but given the current waste they pale into insignificance.

 

[alx]

It's not the only wat, you limit days at sea with harsh discard penalties.

This.

I'm very much in favour of getting rid of the current legislation and making so you can fish as much as you want, but only within certain time periods.

 

[Badgi]

I bloody love Hugh, he doesn't muck about, just gets straight to the point with everything he does.

Can't wait to see the outcome of this meeting with Tesco tonight. And kudos to Sainsburys for doing some proper research and using a method of getting tuna that has little impact.

 

[Johno please?]

I like the way the guys on last nights program just go "yea we catch sharks and tortoise and dolphins too" Yet on the cans it faps on about dolphin friendly...

I already buy pole and line caught albacore Tuna anyway but it winds me up.

 

[Cosimo]

Fixed.

Just like the fish industry.

 

[JaffaJedi]

Cods stocks ARE recovering strongly - just goes to show the power of nature that it can truly overcome despite the different obstacles put in place. It also emphasises the importance of diversity.

Source?

Cod from the shore are still very thin on the ground.. and I havent heard of any 10lb + cod being caught from the shore this season in my neck of the woods, which is considered one of the best cod shore fishing areas in the country.

As I said before the only reasonable solution is to give commercials limited days, and land everything. To regulate this with CCTV so that they arent discarding lower value fish.

 

[Jay.D]

You didn't catch it, you don't get to sell it, it's pathetic

that is just stupid.

 

[Jay.D]

Best way is to have limited days at sea, I'm sure you have seen Deadliest Catch, they have a limited window to fill their boots.

There are problems associated with this method but given the current waste they pale into insignificance.

I just dont understand why this isn't the case...surely someone must have thought of this also.

 

[Will Gill]

I just dont understand why this isn't the case...surely someone must have thought of this also.

You would have thought so wouldn't you

Unfortunately catch windows actually ruin the price of fish and bankrupt the smaller fleets. Imagine you have two weeks to make hay, imagine all the boats return at once, what do you think happens to the price of fish - it plummets as the market is flooded. Also boats literally HAVE to fish during that period to maintain their livelihood, this means if there is a force 10 gale they have to go out, which is verging on insanity. In that scenario the massive trawlers corner the market and eventually force the little people out of business

There are plenty of decent compromises but they require careful calculations, including the option to trade catches, stagger fishing seasons etc..

Only time will tell if the idiots in Brussells choose to listen of find something more important to battle like the amount of lead in pencils.....

 

[Mik3]

Did anyone watch it tonight? Its so ******* stupid, why the hell are we doing this? Its completely insane.

 

[Van Hellseek]

Fish Fight?

http://www.veoh.com/watch/e104370ym2d594t

 

[Glaucus]

Bumpty bump.

They've voted for massive reform, including getting rid of discard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21352617

More data is needed about species to make Europe's fishing more sustainable
The European Parliament has voted for sweeping reforms of the controversial EU Common Fisheries Policy.

The package includes measures to protect endangered stocks and end discards - the practice of throwing unwanted dead fish into the sea.

Wasteful discards are reckoned to account for a quarter of total catches under the current quota system.

There are hopes that the changes can become law by next year, after more talks with the 27 EU governments.

The MEPs voted for the package by 502 votes to 137.

The Greens in parliament called the vote "historic". Spokeswoman Isabella Lovin said it would "finally put the EU's fisheries policy on a sustainable footing".

A fishing alliance, Europeche, says the reforms are too sudden and too radical.

With an estimated 75% of Europe’s stocks overfished, there has been enormous public and media pressure over this latest attempt to shake up the CFP.


The BBC's environment analyst Roger Harrabin says the vote is something of a victory for citizen power, following organised lobbying of MEPs by ordinary people, as well as by high-profile celebrity chefs and environmentalists.

The reform package was presented to the full parliament in Strasbourg by the German Social Democrat MEP Ulrike Rodust.

She said the reforms “will bring an end to the December ritual of fisheries ministers negotiating until 4am, neglecting scientific advice and setting too high fishing quotas.

“As of 2015, the principle of maximum sustainable yield shall apply, which means that each year we do not harvest more fish than a stock can reproduce. Our objective is that depleted fish stocks recover by 2020. Not only nature will benefit, but also fishermen: bigger stocks produce higher yields.”

She said fishermen had to be helped through a transitional period as fishing capacity shrank to allow stocks to recover.

Parliamentary clout

MEPs are sharing power with the Council - the EU governments - on fisheries policy for the first time. There is still some dispute about the amount of influence MEPs can exert over fishing quotas.

Under the new proposals, the EU will shift from the current bargaining over quotas - a system often attacked by environmental groups - to fishing based on "maximum sustainable yield" (MSY).

The phasing in of MSY depends on collecting more scientific data about the rate at which different marine species reproduce.

The environmental group Greenpeace welcomed the MEPs' vote on Wednesday, saying the reforms would help to promote small-scale and low-impact fishing methods.

Greenpeace says small-scale fishing vessels measuring 12m (40ft) or less make up about 80% of the European fishing sector and usually cause less environmental harm.

The group's spokesperson on EU fisheries policy, Saskia Richartz, called it "a momentous shift away from overfishing".

"National governments that stand in the way of reform, like Spain and France, will find it increasingly hard to act as proxies for a handful of powerful companies, with no concern for the long-term wellbeing of the oceans or the majority of fishermen," she said.

Atlantic bluefin tuna is the most overfished species in European waters.

But the environmental group WWF says EU fisheries have also faced a 32% decline in stocks of cod, plaice and sole since 1993.

The fish catch in the North Sea has slumped from 3.5m tonnes in 1995 to 1.5m tonnes in 2007, WWF reports.

The UK Conservatives' fisheries spokesman, Struan Stevenson MEP, said "these reforms will be wresting control away from the micro-managers in Brussels who have made such an absolute mess of fisheries policy for the past 30 years".

"We will also see an urgent timetable set for an absolute ban on the scandal of dumping and discards."

 

[King4aDay]

I'm very pleased to hear that bycatch/overcatch dumping is now gone, but I don't quite understand how they're going to keep all species under their individual maximum sustainable yields whilst allowing bycatch to be sold. It's going to take a lot of policing.

 

[Glaucus]

It hasn't been fleshed out yet, so we shall see what happens. I still think limiting fishing time is the way forward. And maybe things like bigger nets to allow young fish to survive.

We shall have to wait for more details next year. But dumping dead fish over board was absolutely retarded.