human teleportation

So while there is no current research (I didn't say there was, you made that up), it is entirely possible.

I made that up?

I accept that you are of that opinion, I disagree however, due to the research into teleportation (quantum or otherwise).

Oh really now?

The thread began discussing other forms of teleportation in reference to science from Post #13.

Actually, post 13 was referring entirely to science fiction Human teleportation based on star trek. And then post 20 says:

Quantum teleportation is not what people normally refer to as teleportation.

Which is quite true.
 
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People who study physics for a life time believe it is achieveable, And they're scientists! Why is teleportation more believeable than God?? Because people like Charles Benett, physics professor and astrophysicist support it! a guy who has recieved nearly a dozen awards from the scientific community.

You may not agree with it being possible, and compare it to the likelyhood of God existing. But the difference teleportation has been done, Just not with humans. Yet scientists who actually have a grasp on physics way above our understanding are happy to see the principals in place and expand on that inorder to attempt other teleportation.

Its the same principal as the particles in the large hadron collider, we know particles within there move near the speed of light, The principals seen are being used and theories\tests and experiments are being devised to take those principals and replicate them on something bigger.

Thats how most things work right? Start out small?
 
Yes, but not very quickly. likely not within out livetimes, and probably not how any of us think it will happen.

“If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it” - Ol' Albert
 
People who study physics for a life time believe it is achieveable, And they're scientists! Why is teleportation more believeable than God?? Because people like Charles Benett, physics professor and astrophysicist support it! a guy who has recieved nearly a dozen awards from the scientific community.

You may not agree with it being possible, and compare it to the likelyhood of God existing. But the difference teleportation has been done, Just not with humans. Yet scientists who actually have a grasp on physics way above our understanding are happy to see the principals in place and expand on that inorder to attempt other teleportation.

Its the same principal as the particles in the large hadron collider, we know particles within there move near the speed of light, The principals seen are being used and theories\tests and experiments are being devised to take those principals and replicate them on something bigger.

Thats how most things work right? Start out small?

Scientists who have such a great grasp of physics obviously understand next to nothing about humans it seems.

Human understanding does not start out from Quantum Physics.
 
That still has nothing to do with human teleportation.

:rolleyes: I never said it did, I know you cannot seem to comprehend that I am not specifically saying that Human Teleportation is possible, I am not.

I am stating that their is some evidence to suggest that teleportation is possible scientifically and given enough time and research and energy Human Teleportation as Bennet explained it can be considered a possibility also.

The same cannot be said of God, however. There is no evidence scientifically of God. We have yet to even define God to any degree, let alone discuss the possibility or impossibility of the concept.

The same is not true of Human Transportation.
 
I am stating that their is some evidence to suggest that teleportation is possible scientifically and given enough time and research and energy Human Teleportation as Bennet explained it can be considered a possibility also.

This is not evidence, but just a Physicists personal opinion on humans, which in my opinion he has no right to make from research on a quantum level.

Human Teleportation, or in fact teleportation of any living organic lifeform is as far fetched as believing in life after death because you heard that someone else saw a ghost. A human would most likely die in the interval between any such theoretical teleportation.
 
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I say yes. It's quite easy*... Bend space from the point you are currently at to the point you want to be, cut a wee hole in space, step through, seal hole.

Simples. And no need to shoot yourself














*may not be easy
 
This is not evidence, but just a Physicists personal opinion on humans, which in my opinion he has no right to make from research on a quantum level.

Human Teleportation is as far fetched as believing in life after death.


A pertinent quote from a man who knew, regardless of what his peers may have thought.

Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.



We will just have to agree to disagree.:)
 
That quote is out of place since there is no possible knowledge supporting that human transportation will ever be possible, yet a thorough understanding of the human body would definitely lead one to understand that human teleportation would be completely impossible.

Yet in post 2, I thought that you said that human teleportation will never be possible, so now why are you changing your mind?
 
That quote is out of place since there is no possible knowledge supporting that human transportation will ever be possible, yet a thorough understanding of the human body would definitely lead one to understand that human teleportation would be completely impossible.
That is very much only an opinion though.
 
This is not evidence, but just a Physicists personal opinion on humans, which in my opinion he has no right to make from research on a quantum level.

Human Teleportation is as far fetched as believing in life after death. A human would most likely die in the interval between any such possible teleportation.

Dude, relax, your on him like a Jack Russell, he's just 'hypothesising' based on that research that 'maybe' human teleportation could be a possibility in the future, I don't think anyone can at this point in time can outright say that it is, or is not 100% possible.

One thing I do know for a fact is in the future there will be technological advances beyond our current comprehension, I think in our age with our current level of intelligence and scientific tools we find it hard to accept that.
 
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Dude, relax, your on him like a Jack Russell, his just 'hypothesising' based on that research that 'maybe' human teleportation could be a possibility in the future, I don't think anyone can at this point in time outright say that it is, or is not 100% possible.

But there is no research that can yet hypothesize a possibility of human teleportation, and there is absolutely no scientific facts or evidence that can support this as Castiel believes.

He also started this whole thing after I posted my opinion that human teleportation is as likely as God, or life after death, despite already saying no to it being possible in his first post in this thread.
 
But there is no research that can yet hypothesize a possibility of human teleportation, and there is absolutely no scientific facts or evidence that can support this as Castiel believes.

He also started this whole thing after I posted my opinion that human teleportation is as likely as God, or life after death, despite already saying no to it being possible in his first post in this thread.

People have the right to,

hypothesize
A verb
1 speculate, theorize, theorise, conjecture, hypothesize, hypothesise, hypothecate

You don't need scientific facts or evidence to do so.
 
That quote is out of place since there is no possible knowledge supporting that human transportation will ever be possible, yet a thorough understanding of the human body would definitely lead one to understand that human teleportation would be completely impossible.

Yet in post 2, I thought that you said that human teleportation will never be possible, so now why are you changing your mind?

As I have maintained, I don't think that it will. The body maybe, but copying someone's personality I find more difficult to believe and we would need to understand how and why we are individual's in a more esoteric sense then we do currently.

It would be tantamount to cloning rather than transporting, maybe.

I don't dismiss it completely however, and my original response was really a GD orientated one, rather than a fully considered one.

You really need to reread exactly what I have written, because you seem to make a lot of assumptions on what I have not actually said. It is perfectly acceptable to hypothesise based on current quantum and energy research, I haven't stated there is any research currently into Human Teleportation, although some conspiracy theorists may disagree with regard to so called secret US Govt research into psychic phenomena.

And Darwin's quote is apt given your refusal to accept that science may well develop in ways we cannot yet understand.
 
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That quote is out of place since there is no possible knowledge supporting that human transportation will ever be possible, yet a thorough understanding of the human body would definitely lead one to understand that human teleportation would be completely impossible.

The theories indicate that it may be possible, and the subject is viable as debate right up to the highest quality of practitioners in the field. The quote, it seems, is perfectly apt and certainly not out of place, though it galls me to agree with Castiel :p

Edit: You're also focusing on just one method of teleportation, or at best making a blanket generalisation on up to three, in limiting your naive dismissal to the process of disintegration and reintegration. Personally, I'm not contributing to the discussion of the possibilities because I don't feel I have enough knowledge of the field to confidently assert my opinion, but at least I know enough to see that you know even less than me, and seem to revel in it.
 
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