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Can someone spec me what I should teach her in stages?
cleanbluesky said:Can someone spec me what I should teach her in stages?
cleanbluesky said:I've gone past the a few basic lessons with her, and we are onto learning a few simple song... where should I go from there?
What? I just could not disagree with you more. Someone learning to play the guitar will want to rock. They don't want to be bogged down by technique. Despite maybe as something 'cool' to learn within a song, I wouldn't be steering any true novice towards these techniques.churned said:Enter Sandman...
Also start her off with simple techniques like hammer-on's, pull-off's, slides e.t.c.
Again, assuming this person has never played the guitar before, just why? What is even the point in suggesting something clearly above their level of playing?Toryglen-boy said:A harmonic minor all the way up the neck, and advanced picking techniques
Which is why they need a teacher so they don't try runs before they can cake-walk as it were.Nitefly said:What? I just could not disagree with you more. Someone learning to play the guitar will want to rock.
You should teach technique from the very start. It's much harder to undo bad technique later on and good technique from the start yields greater benefits in the long run anyway.Nitefly said:They don't want to be bogged down by technique. ...I wouldn't be steering any true novice towards these
techniques.
Complete agree on all acounts. With my example in the second post I would ensure alternate picking was key. Its incredible important to stop bad technique developing.phykell said:You should teach technique from the very start. It's much harder to undo bad technique later on and good technique from the start yields greater benefits in the long run anyway.
Nitefly said:Complete agree on all acounts. With my example in the second post I would ensure alternate picking was key. Its incredible important to stop bad technique developing.
But 'advance picking techniques' is completely and utterly unnecessary at this level. Why run before you can walk? Maybe I have just misinterpreted the post.
Clinkz said:I disagree.
Guitars are a personal thing and each guitarist plays his or her guitar differently. For instance, some might say using your thumb is bad technique, but SRV made it an art.
That makes no sense to me. Good technique is the key to becoming really good and it follows that poor technique will always hold you back. The idea of being "unique" is a nice thought I guess but once you get good enough, you'll develop your own style anyway, without needing to arguably handicap your playing right from the start. There are exceptions of course, but I imagine they are few and far between and the general rule is that a good technique will allow you to achieve greater results, faster. It's not just that though, good technique allows you to play for longer periods of time without tiring or losing your rhythm making you a better musician especially if you're playing as part of a band.Clinkz said:'Bad technique' does not necessarily make you a worse player. If anything, it makes you more unique.
That may have been due to your natural talent but that doesn't mean everyone will be able to do that.Clinkz said:Personally, i never learnt to alternate pick for four years. A couple of months ago, i worked hard at it it and picked it up in a week.
I never said it couldn't but I did say it's much harder to undo poor technique at a later stage.Clinkz said:Nothing cannot be undone.
Scales are suitable for beginners right up to the most advanced players. You can adapt your scales to play in thirds and fifths, and in different rhythms and a warm up session should almost invariably contain scales and arpeggios. I can't emphasis scales enough because they yield so much benefit in the long run. As for absolute beginners, I think the most basic scale is a great idea because it shows what octaves are and much more besides. If your student goes away on the first lesson knowing the main notes, understanding that a scale is a complete octave and that a scale can be major, minor, etc. that's a great start for anyone. Personally, I should imagine it's quite mind-blowing to understand those basic elements.Clinkz said:And don't bother with scales at least for a couple more lessons. From trying to teach myself left handed my fretting hand simply does not have the stretch/strength/coordination to pull it off properly and i already know the scales by heart! Concentrate on chord shapes and left hand/right hand synchronisation. Through in some different strumming patterns
Agreed.Andelusion said:...so try and keep a mixture of what the student wants to do, and what is necessary for them to practise to enable them to play the songs they have in mind.
There's a third option - I don't want to compose or play with others but I still rely heavily on theory. It's the difference between being able to pick up some sheet music and work through it myself or listen to how someone else plays it and try to emulate them. I don't play be ear at all so I much prefer the former, as the latter is more appropriate for listening to interpretation. I am a pianist rather than guitarist though but obviously I have a good understanding of the guitar tooAndelusion said:Then there's the whole theory side of things, which is another kettle of fish, does your student want to be able to compose their own music or play along with other musicians?
Nitefly said:Again, assuming this person has never played the guitar before, just why? What is even the point in suggesting something clearly above their level of playing?![]()