I am not a pro but is anyone else ...... seeing this ****?

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I am alarmed at how some tech manufacturers treat their customers and their hard earned cash........

So NVIDIA make a new card - fanboys pre-purchase.......I understand there is a huge waiting list.............. NVIDIA have made about 15 items (I guess everyone was furloughed, kidding)..........but now they have a waiting list of presold NVIDIA folk.........

AMD release their specs and their offering may be up to 30% better at the mid-price point ...but tech fans are presold of NVIDIA. Are they tied in to their purchases? I have no idea. They should be able to back out in my opinion.

I am also guessing a lot of gamers sold their AMD/GForce GFX cards prematurely and are now playing solitaire, candy crush and chess.

I think NVIDIA are guilty of sharp practice here.

I think this is another example of tech manufactures treating consumers poorly.

We experienced it with crap intel motherboards (I am no expert but one evolution of motherboard and CPU was passed over very quickly because it was pants) and I can think of one hopeless OS (think Windows 8) a few years back. I am sure pros can think of better examples.
 
Individual responsibility, don't pre-order an item 1 month before the rival product is set to be announced. AMD haven't released a competitive GPU in about 5 years so I imagine that's why a lot of people jumped in head first.
 
Individual responsibility, don't pre-order an item 1 month before the rival product is set to be announced. AMD haven't released a competitive GPU in about 5 years so I imagine that's why a lot of people jumped in head first.

Traditionally tech fanboys love to give their hard earned cash money to Intel/AMD...[insert tech manufactures name here]...

When you say 'release' NVIDIAs 'launch' reminds me of this Frankie Boyle joke:

https://me.me/i/its-weird-getting-o...-ejaculating-6c686606bcb24ca486b7b127a919fb1c
 
AMD release their specs and their offering may be up to 30% better at the mid-price point

Where are you getting 30% from? From what I've seen so far AMD is a few % better in some instances, equal in others and Nvidia slightly better in some.

Pre-order holders can certainly cancel, some will, some won't.
 
Where are you getting 30% from? From what I've seen so far AMD is a few % better in some instances, equal in others and Nvidia slightly better in some.

Pre-order holders can certainly cancel, some will, some won't.
Better is a vague term, I suspect OP is talking about price to performance.
 
Where are you getting 30% from? From what I've seen so far AMD is a few % better in some instances, equal in others and Nvidia slightly better in some.

Pre-order holders can certainly cancel, some will, some won't.

I was watching this video. Like I say I am not a Pro. I was wondering why the Japanese guy was wearing heels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KAnebwCAaA&ab_channel=AMD

Of course different game engines will work better and worse with NVIDEA/AMD...I am interested in overall bang for my buck.
 
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Where are you getting 30% from? From what I've seen so far AMD is a few % better in some instances, equal in others and Nvidia slightly better in some.

Pre-order holders can certainly cancel, some will, some won't.

See the vid posted above.

It is good to hear that forum buddies that pre-order have the option to cancel.

I am not an early adopter of pioneer of anything Stu - I use an android phone which is 1 or 2 generations behind which takes a memory card.

I will get a new card next year from OCUK when the time is right.
 
No this is the basic definition of a free market.

If you don't like it, or can't afford it, don't buy it.

You don't think there is a whiff of sharp practice? I can't recall such a shortage of items in the past at launch. Is this common?

I don't like it, I can afford it (which is a privileged position) and I am choosing not to buy until the nonsense is over. I held on to my GTX 1080p.

Do I think it is sharp practice, yes.

For instance, 3080 cards which are supposed to cost a little over £700 new are currently selling on ebay for £1,200 plus with no warranty today. Would you not agree that this is proof positive of NVIDIA not respecting their customer base?

Now it is up to forum buddies to post their views.
 
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Ah, you could be right. For clarity ‘better’ in my post was referring to absolute performance in terms of frame rates.

Absolute performance is going to depend on which model you compare with which... and surely that comparison would be made by comparing models of a similar price?
 
Never, ever pre-order. Not games, not hardware.

We-e-e-ell...I (effectively) pre-ordered the odd game over the years with early access stuff. But only when I had trust in the developer.

I pre-ordered Windows 7 as well, and after Vista had no reason to trust Microsoft...but the Technical Preview of it worked well, and the pre-order was ridiculously discounted compared with release, so I went for it.

But yeah, not touching graphics card pre-orders even with someone else's 40ft pole...
 
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